World: r3wp

The classes or scheduled things should be with plenty of time between, 
maybe alternate between a lecture and then a discussion activity 
so people have a longer time to "network".  And a big clock on the 
wall to help manage time...;-)

A bad thing about the hotel last year is that the conference room 
was not close to the lobby.  A better setup might be a good conference 
room, and a secondary room for "networking" / labbing (or just a 
room with an open door adjacent) with the conference room near the 
lobby so the flow of REBOLers is always near it, and the schedule 
posted there with any announcements.

I think we should try to get the conference to be hosted in a university, 
and exponsored by the university. Plus is that you may attract some 
students, also costs will lower, and the university campus will be 
nicer.

If programmed for the summer time we could even use the university 
doorms which will be cheaper.

as someone who tried to watch the proceedings of the last devcon, 
it was not so much the video feed that was of value but the slide 
content, audio and perhaps the role altme played in proviiding feedback/questions 
from those not present , perhaps a tool could be built to facilitate 
this process ?.

University: i know a lot of people at the faculty of engineering 
at the university of L'Aquila. the closest airport is still Rome 
though.

about announcing: yes, probably it's better to start sooner than 
later.

I'll be glad to go in Italy in september !

I thought this year it is going to be in France, and next year, 10th 
anniversary of Rebol it will be in CZ :-)

Petr, I hope it'll be where the people who want to host it are enthusiastic.

Gabriele's made an enthusiastic bid for Italy for this year, and 
that has my support.
Not too early to start inviting us to rebol/cz/2006 :-)

I have blocked off the last week of September on Carl's schedule

GREAT! 8)

Who gave her the authority to do that?  - j/k :-)   I'll be watching 
hopefully via video link - lets hope its better than last time.

By the way, some of the content on the DevCon2004 section of the 
rebol.net site apparently didn't make it to the new server. 403s 
abound.

great Cindy :)

i'll make sure you can visit some good winemakers here :)

I have a very good friend of mine who is winemaker. Maybe we can 
arrange an event and have some wine tasting.

Gabriele, hai un link con panorama/foto della regione?

(Will asked for photos) here where i live? http://www.roccacasale.it/

Beatiful

Eh, let's try that again

Beautiful!

maybe we've found a place; it's near Milan though. i'll let you know 
:)

Hm...  that link times out Gabriele...

ammon: that's very strange. the server's in the USA btw, so it's 
not that far from you either.

will have to give it a miss this year...

I will be in France end Oct though...

is there a list of good places to stay in that area?

we're going to have all the info available soon. i'd like to have 
a trip in milan organized so that we can visit the city etc. If anyone 
is landing in Rome, we could also visit it too.

I volunteer for wine tasting comittee.

at least as an active member.

So, Last weeks of September was mentioned.  What is Italy like then?

it's still quite warm here, however milan is in the north so nothing 
like california :)

I looks like a boot

(to answer Reichart's question)

IMO it's a very nice time to go to Italy. And Milano is a very nice 
city.

It can get chilly if the wind is from the North. But probably still 
sunny at the same time.
http://www.wordtravels.com/Cities/Italy/Milan/Climate
Yes, very nice city.

http://www.travelplan.it/milan_guide.htm

http://www.travelplan.it/pdf/milan_guide.pdf

Hum I have one little sugestion for DevCON2005 live streaming. Is 
to use NullSoft shout cast wich in my opinion is mutch easier to 
use and mutch performant than Quicktime...

to share audio and video we need 3 things 1) the shoutcast server 
(configured properly but this not the most enoyant part)  www.shoutcast.com/ 
 2) the NSV Tools that is used to share video stream from the webcam 
(use the VP3 encoder for video) and from the  microphone   (MP3 Lame 
encoder)  3) client use winamp software to see and listen the intervention 
in the conference ;)

normally this shoutcast solution is supported by all OS and computers...

but it could be very cool to prepare the relay month befor the devcon 
in order to get it the more more workable as possible

Gabriele - where in Italy would it take place? The thing is - should 
we travel by car across the Europe, or will it be possible to to 
taky a flight? Will it be near enough of any airport?

ah, should read the content first. I need to talk to Czech guys, 
where it is more common flights from CZ arrive to ... Rome or Milano 
...

i think you should find flights for both. they are the biggest airports 
in italy. so the decision about landing to rome is mainly if you 
wish to visit the city and then go to milan (i.e. by train, so you 
have the chance to see almost all italy)

if there are enough people interested in visiting rome, we could 
organize and all stay in the same hotel, then take the same train 
to milan. i'd be with you and we could get tickets etc. in advance. 
just an idea...

How does the sending of the DevCon form work. There's written it 
will be send via e-mail. When I use Opera (my mailer) it just opens 
the empty mailer and the IE wants to use Outlook what's not configured. 
Is there another way to send the Survey without making it too hard 
for you Gabriele ? (copy the information in the mail ....)

REBOL romers?

Ammon, I seriously doubt I have the money to pay for a trip to Italy. 
 its a trip worth a few thousand dollars.

doh, pressed wrong Ctrl key !!! was not meant to be sent here... 
but the damage is done...  :-)