World: r3wp

Who gave her the authority to do that?  - j/k :-)   I'll be watching 
hopefully via video link - lets hope its better than last time.

By the way, some of the content on the DevCon2004 section of the 
rebol.net site apparently didn't make it to the new server. 403s 
abound.

great Cindy :)

i'll make sure you can visit some good winemakers here :)

I have a very good friend of mine who is winemaker. Maybe we can 
arrange an event and have some wine tasting.

Gabriele, hai un link con panorama/foto della regione?

(Will asked for photos) here where i live? http://www.roccacasale.it/

Beatiful

Eh, let's try that again

Beautiful!

maybe we've found a place; it's near Milan though. i'll let you know 
:)

Hm...  that link times out Gabriele...

ammon: that's very strange. the server's in the USA btw, so it's 
not that far from you either.

will have to give it a miss this year...

I will be in France end Oct though...

is there a list of good places to stay in that area?

we're going to have all the info available soon. i'd like to have 
a trip in milan organized so that we can visit the city etc. If anyone 
is landing in Rome, we could also visit it too.

I volunteer for wine tasting comittee.

at least as an active member.

So, Last weeks of September was mentioned.  What is Italy like then?

it's still quite warm here, however milan is in the north so nothing 
like california :)

I looks like a boot

(to answer Reichart's question)

IMO it's a very nice time to go to Italy. And Milano is a very nice 
city.

It can get chilly if the wind is from the North. But probably still 
sunny at the same time.
http://www.wordtravels.com/Cities/Italy/Milan/Climate
Yes, very nice city.

http://www.travelplan.it/milan_guide.htm

http://www.travelplan.it/pdf/milan_guide.pdf

Hum I have one little sugestion for DevCON2005 live streaming. Is 
to use NullSoft shout cast wich in my opinion is mutch easier to 
use and mutch performant than Quicktime...

to share audio and video we need 3 things 1) the shoutcast server 
(configured properly but this not the most enoyant part)  www.shoutcast.com/ 
 2) the NSV Tools that is used to share video stream from the webcam 
(use the VP3 encoder for video) and from the  microphone   (MP3 Lame 
encoder)  3) client use winamp software to see and listen the intervention 
in the conference ;)

normally this shoutcast solution is supported by all OS and computers...

but it could be very cool to prepare the relay month befor the devcon 
in order to get it the more more workable as possible

Gabriele - where in Italy would it take place? The thing is - should 
we travel by car across the Europe, or will it be possible to to 
taky a flight? Will it be near enough of any airport?

ah, should read the content first. I need to talk to Czech guys, 
where it is more common flights from CZ arrive to ... Rome or Milano 
...

i think you should find flights for both. they are the biggest airports 
in italy. so the decision about landing to rome is mainly if you 
wish to visit the city and then go to milan (i.e. by train, so you 
have the chance to see almost all italy)

if there are enough people interested in visiting rome, we could 
organize and all stay in the same hotel, then take the same train 
to milan. i'd be with you and we could get tickets etc. in advance. 
just an idea...

How does the sending of the DevCon form work. There's written it 
will be send via e-mail. When I use Opera (my mailer) it just opens 
the empty mailer and the IE wants to use Outlook what's not configured. 
Is there another way to send the Survey without making it too hard 
for you Gabriele ? (copy the information in the mail ....)

REBOL romers?

Ammon, I seriously doubt I have the money to pay for a trip to Italy. 
 its a trip worth a few thousand dollars.

doh, pressed wrong Ctrl key !!! was not meant to be sent here... 
but the damage is done...  :-)

from the maillist:

Hello all,

  http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/survey.html

Regards,
  Gabriele.

Michael: form result should go to email automatically. you can send 
me a mail manually if you want. if there's a problem for enough people 
with the email form, i'll look into setting up a cgi.

Should use the plugin!

btw - what is your suggestion? Rome or Milano? I was not in either 
...

Graham: i've been thinking a lot about how to make it so that 1) 
it could be done in a couple mins 2) could be accessed by anyone, 
even without rebol or plugin. this seemed like the simplest and most 
accessible way. which shows that the web is too complicated.

petr: Milano is closer to the place where the devcon is. from Roma 
you have to travel across half Italy. so, if you have a limited time, 
Milano is best. while if you have enough time and want to take the 
chance to visit italy, you may prefer Roma.

Milano is more a "business" kind of city. Roma is probably more interesting 
from a tourist point of view. but it really depends. Milano can be 
very interesting too.

i think we should consider Roma only if we manage to get an arganized 
group there. that would mean a lot of fun.

*organized

btw, everyone feel free to submit the form even if you are not sure 
about your answers. it's just getting a mail to me so if you change 
idea you can just send me another one or send me a note manually.

Accessed without Rebol ?  I wonder if you *really* believe someone 
who does not have rebol installed would be coming to a devcon!

you may be on a pc without rebol. but - why not? ;)