World: r3wp

Parts of R3 will be open giving the abilty to port

RT will have the main "kernal" closed and its this part that RT will 
develop other parts are left to the community to build

like QNX, same model

very similar

Parts. That's the whole point. That means I won't be able to port 
it on other platforms, because I need the source of the whole thing. 
(I'll be happy to be proven wrong).

in fact Carl supposedly spoke with  the CEO of QNX shorly before 
they made that anousment

As far as I understand it R3 will allow you to port to any platform 
or OS. I'm sure there is an exlanation of how this is to be done.

It's like on linux, compiling kernel modules vs. compiling the kernel 
itself.

To make a distribution, you need to be able to do both.

yeah , they steal his idea ;-)

I think that if your really motivated, RT let you port Rebol on alien 
platforms

The main problem of Rebol is the business model. I've seen RT struggle 
with this since the first versions, I don't have a solution, I don't 
know how you make money with open source, but some people do.

with frameworks conception, you can

but we need an IDE for that purpose

I think RT realize they are not going to make money on hte software 
but on services revolving around the product

or not

Either you can compile from source, or you can't. You don't have 
to merit it by showing how eager you are, or to mark points in other 
ways.

it's not the only point, i'm wondering why have no killer apps

Atlme is that one ? not sure

A brief description of R# components and how the "hybrid-open-source 
model" will work: http://www.rebol.com/docs3/architecture.html

To me, the killer aspect of Rebol is the language design. It's just 
very, very expressive.

Altme? You must be kidding.

yeah, a little

but what else ?

i see nothing

Another aspect I like about Rebol is the community.

yeah, we are cool guys

The fact it's small and courageous. You side with the losers.

:)

by the way, it's not the good place for such comments

In what sense?

Runtime Core - Closed: This is the OS independent kernel that provides 
standard REBOL capabilities across all systems and devices. It is 
this component that makes REBOL operate identically on Windows, OSX, 
Linux, BSD, Sony, Nokia, Nintendo, and other systems.
-from the above document.

in sense that we should move from Rebol/flash dialect thread

to Vent?

Host Environment - Open: The environment defines an operating system 
abstraction layer (OSAL) that can be ported to a wide range of systems, 
including desktop systems, set-top boxes, mobile devices, and cell 
phones. This approach gives developers a way to run and improve REBOL 
on their specific target platforms.
-from same document

Oldes, would it be possible to have a version running with /core 
?

with some modifications yes... I'm not using it with Core

Will: I'm guessing that you meant a version running with /core under 
OS X.

PeterWood: Right, as posted in OSX group /view doesn't work in 10.5/intel

Oldes: me I ask? 8)

Will: When I tried to load the latest version of RWSF under Mac OS 
X it failed as it calls a Windows DLL.

Thanks for the info Peter! and read-thru is only in /view right?

read-thru is certainly not in core 2.6.2.

The windows dll called by RWSF is Zlib

there should not be zlib anymore.. it was used for decompress anyway.

read-thru can be in core without problems

what I'm not sure is how struct! is supported in core

There should be also some change in image loader, but this could 
be done in core way anyway... this part of code is pretty old... 
2002 or something like that

COOOL !! Got swf8-convolution1.swf building on /core (OSX) ! How 
great this is 8) thanks Oldes!

Keep on your project Oldes! That's a very good one. As Pekr mentioned, 
made with Rebol, run with Adobe. That means Rebol may not even need 
a plugin eventually. And for the ones who think alternative solutions 
are not for them, ask yourself what you're doing here! You're at 
the wrong place! Go to MacDo and Pizza Hut, install Vista and don't 
forget to buy an iPhone!