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[rebcode] Rebcode discussion

BrianH
8-Nov-2005
[1239x3]
Well, I don't write View code. We all have our strengths :)
And on that note, where's the Core version of the new build?
Testing: The new brab works. The eq.i opcode still works on logic 
and datatype values as well.
Gregg
8-Nov-2005
[1242x2]
For those with a lot of rebcode already, there will probably be a 
conversion tool to update your scripts available shortly.
I can live with dots but I don't like it, looks really un-REBOLish

 -- That's by design. The opcode names are not human friendly either; 
 also by design. The idea being that rebcode is *not* REBOL, and having 
 it look more like ASM makes you more aware of that. There will probably 
 also be a separate style guide for rebcode at some point.
Gabriele
9-Nov-2005
[1244x2]
Kru: we have a script that does the conversion automatically. Ask 
Ladislav.
(ah, i see Gregg told you already ;)
Rebolek
9-Nov-2005
[1246]
Gabriele: thanks but I've already rewrote most of my code yesterday. 
I don't know your conversion script but I've had different scripts 
using 1.30.50, .51, .52 and even old 1.4 alphas so does your script 
cover all different syntaxes or just the latest one?
Gabriele
9-Nov-2005
[1247]
only   mul -> mul.i, muld -> mul.d and so on. i.e. latest.
Rebolek
9-Nov-2005
[1248]
And rewriting scripts manually was great opportunity to otimize them 
to (and sometimes by factor of two, so it was for good :))
Gabriele
9-Nov-2005
[1249]
:-)
Rebolek
9-Nov-2005
[1250]
otimize-optimize
Oldes
9-Nov-2005
[1251]
What's the problem with dot? I was not voting, but must say I like 
dot. At least it looks differently from variable names, where I use 
- and _ chars.
Pekr
10-Nov-2005
[1252x2]
guys, rgba to integer conversion link is dead ...
should I rambo-it? :-)
Rebolek
10-Nov-2005
[1254x2]
this looks like a bug to me:
>> o1: context [a: 0 rc: rebcode [x][set a x]]
>> o1/rc 3
>> ? o1
O1 is an object of value:
   a               integer!  3
   rc              rebcode!  [x]

>> o2: make o1 []
>> o2/rc 5
>> ? o2
O2 is an object of value:
   a               integer!  3
   rc              rebcode!  [x]

>> ? o1
O1 is an object of value:
   a               integer!  5
   rc              rebcode!  [x]
Volker
10-Nov-2005
[1256]
seems rebcodes are not rebound.
Rebolek
10-Nov-2005
[1257]
should I RAMBO it?
Volker
10-Nov-2005
[1258x2]
I think yes. needs either docu or fix.
maybe thats one of the reasons why all branches are relative? to 
easier copy on make?
Rebolek
10-Nov-2005
[1260]
submited
Gregg
10-Nov-2005
[1261]
Thanks Petr! No need to RAMBO it. I'll look into it.
Ladislav
18-Nov-2005
[1262x2]
questions we need to get an answer for, especially from BrianH as 
a supplier of #3947:
Related to string COMPARE are these features:
1) case sensitive or not
2) which string is "greater"
3) index of non-equal (tail of compare)
4) find
BrianH
19-Nov-2005
[1264x4]
Well after testing, it seems that the behavior of cmp is:

1) Case sensitive. Lowercase the strings for case insensitive compares.

2) If the first string is less than the second, cmp sets the return 
word to -1, equal sets to 0, and greater sets to 1. If two strings 
of different lengths and are the same for the length of the shorter 
string, the longer string counts as greater. Otherwise, the numeric 
equivalent of each corresponding character is compared.

3) You can roll your own with length?, repeatz, pick, lt.i, gt.i 
and breakt (if you want, I'll do it). The cmp opcode won't help here.
4) Use apply i find [ser val] - it'll be faster.
Still, I'm glad to see cmp, sign and asr, and the fixes are welcome 
too. I didn't know that lsr was not unsigned before - that's what 
lsr means. Good fix!
; Index of non-equal, 1-based, assumes indexes within bounds
length? x a
length? y b
gt.i x y
ift [set.i x y]
repeat i x [
    pick x a i
    pick y b i
    eq.i x y
    breakf
]
; i = first non-equal index
It would probably be better to do case-sensitive compares anyway, 
as it would allow you to compare binaries. Character case needs code 
pages and such to work anyway when you have Unicode, or languages 
other than English.
Anton
19-Nov-2005
[1268]
View1.3.61 is out. http://www.rebol.net/builds/
BrianH
19-Nov-2005
[1269]
Anton, thanks for announcing, as I forgot to mention above that was 
the version I was testing with :)
Oldes
23-Nov-2005
[1270x3]
Just uploaded rebcode for tracing 2 colored bitmaps (it's not perfect, 
I think it can be optimised) but at this moment I have what I needed....
do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/projects/vectorize/latest/vectorize.r

probe vectorize http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/projects/vectorize/latest/img41.gif
It's possible that some situation will not be handled, but I was 
already able to convert two alphabets from bitmap to vectors using 
it.
Rebolek
23-Nov-2005
[1273]
what is the result of vectorize function? draw dialect surely not
Oldes
23-Nov-2005
[1274x2]
probe ctx-vectorize/to-pairs vectorize http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/projects/vectorize/latest/img41.gif
I'm not using pair as there is no support for them in rebcode
Rebolek
23-Nov-2005
[1276]
to-pairs function returns some a lot of negative pair! , why is the 
image shifted?
Oldes
23-Nov-2005
[1277x4]
because i use it to make font from the bitmap and there is the y 
axis counted from below, you may also aske why there is the innerLine 
(it's because to render the hole correctly there must be correct 
direction - it could be done in the rebcode, but I found it when 
I had the inner tracing done and don't want to do it again - so I 
just changed the "line" to "innerLine" and must fix it in the to-pairs 
function -> for outer shape I use append and for holes insert :)
I should probably remove to to-pairs function from the vectorizer's 
context, and use it alone
here is example how to use it in real life: do http://box.lebeda.ws/~hmm/rebol/projects/font-tools/latest/test.r
It would be nice to have possibility to use embedded fonts in Rebol 
as it's possible with Flash.
Volker
25-Nov-2005
[1281]
http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/papers/ertl%26gregg04pact.ps.gz
Oldes
25-Nov-2005
[1282]
I probably missed something, how can I read *.ps files?
Volker
25-Nov-2005
[1283x2]
Click on them in linxu? Hmm, there is ghostscript for windows too 
somewhere.
Mybe google has html in its cache, but i lost the search-page.
Oldes
25-Nov-2005
[1285]
What is the advantage of using *.ps files? Is it at least interesting 
reading?
Volker
25-Nov-2005
[1286x2]
It was the interesting reading why i choosed it. did not realize 
the *.ps
about building a native compiler from an interpeter.
Oldes
25-Nov-2005
[1288]
ech 10MB of download just to read a simple text file, I'm not going 
to read it today.