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[Windows/COM Support]

Robert
30-Oct-2005
[76x2]
BTW: I'm currently the excel dialect Gregg and I made to COMLib. 
Works good so far.
currently = currently porting
Benjamin
30-Oct-2005
[78]
those are good news, btw im going to make a program for those who 
dont have rebol/pro, using a TCP port, just like i've see in other 
projects, if any one can point me to some sources it would be great.
Volker
30-Oct-2005
[79x2]
You could do the tcp it in /pro? encap what you have know, together 
with handling of tcp? Then free rebols can contact.
Job for rugby or beer.
Benjamin
30-Oct-2005
[81]
most rebol users have the plain rebol/view it would be nice to offer 
this lib to them too the best solution i found is to create a program 
to serve the comlib function via tcp
Volker
30-Oct-2005
[82]
if any one can point me to some sources it would be great.

 what sources? i thought you wanted to write the proxy in another 
 language.
Benjamin
30-Oct-2005
[83]
i have to do it that whay
Volker
30-Oct-2005
[84]
But thinking more, i guess you planned to offer an encapped rebol-proxy.
Benjamin
30-Oct-2005
[85]
i dont have the sdk :(
Volker
30-Oct-2005
[86]
Oh. a real plain /pro? But sure somebody else can encap? Just build 
a tcp-proxy and they encap it?
Benjamin
30-Oct-2005
[87]
i saw some examples using this technique R2Win  - version 1.5.1  
J. Colineau used for topwindows.r
Volker
30-Oct-2005
[88]
(dont have all that office-stuff for testing. Hmm, are there fre 
programms which i could use?
Benjamin
30-Oct-2005
[89]
i think Graham encap it
Volker
30-Oct-2005
[90]
R2Win Colineau
 gives some googles, but all links are death. cache too.
Benjamin
30-Oct-2005
[91x3]
yes links are dead :(
well im going to start by scrach
i whant to finish the doc first
DideC
31-Oct-2005
[94]
I can ask Jocko (Joseph Colineau) for its R2Win stuff, if you like 
?
Robert
31-Oct-2005
[95]
IMO if people really have a use for this COM stuff (which is by using 
dialects on top of it), I think it's OK for them to get a /Pro version. 
If it's of value than $99 isn't that much.
Maarten
31-Oct-2005
[96]
I have rhe SDK and Rugby: want me to build it for you?
Robert
31-Oct-2005
[97]
The available format specifies should be added to the docs.
Benjamin
31-Oct-2005
[98]
the sources are in the links, it would be great to have it encaped
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[99]
how about a free encap service? :-)
Robert
1-Nov-2005
[100x2]
What's the problem? Get the SDK and sponsor RT a bit for their work.
If it's of value to you the deal is very fair.
Graham
1-Nov-2005
[102]
I think the discussion is how to provide com support for those without 
/Pro.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[103]
robert, some of us just can't afford the SDK yet, but if there was 
an RT service that would let you encap an application for 5$, I might 
use it.
Graham
1-Nov-2005
[104]
that would be too much work ...
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[105]
would it? maybe there could be a range of services you could use 
for a small fee. If RT were to have more income, I think such services 
would be worth looking at.
Graham
1-Nov-2005
[106x2]
I guess the problem is when the encap fails ...
since the person who wants the encap has no way of testing it before 
he submits it.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[108]
true... I guess there is not an easy way to detect a successfully 
encapped application.
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[109]
time-limitation? YOu get as many 5-minutes-encapps as you want for 
free?
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[110]
time-limitation built into the encapped program?
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[111]
Yes.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[112]
that could be a thing, of course if you don't just figure out a way 
around it, but for testing that would be great
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[113]
Or a spashscreen or something. EIther you advertise big for rebol, 
or you pay it away.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[114x2]
well, it should be a developer thing only and it should be a little 
more annoying than what you'd see in demos for ordinary shareware 
programs.
time limits are mostly annoying, but doesn't hamper usage in that 
time. I don't think the GUI or other things should be obscured
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[116]
No, i thought a click-away-spashscreen and then normal app. But for 
$5-encap testing time seems best.
Robert
1-Nov-2005
[117]
Anyway, disucssion is OT. My point is, if someone can make value 
out of COM support, that getting a /Pro isn't a problem. If it's 
a problem, than I'm sure the COM support is just wanted for playing 
around. Which is OK, but doesn't fit RT's business strategy.
Volker
1-Nov-2005
[118x2]
Coding and selling are two different talents.
And its not OT, as, without Benjamin, there is no COM Support.
Henrik
1-Nov-2005
[120]
I think we could move the technicalities of remote encapping to the 
SDK group?
BrianH
1-Nov-2005
[121]
Yes, so far Benjamin's been the only one with the expertise who's 
been able to put in the time to implement COM support.
Gabriele
1-Nov-2005
[122]
an encap service as been discussed many times in the past. there 
are a number of problems in doing it.
Graham
2-Nov-2005
[123]
Benjamin, is COM how one accesses inking functions on the tablet 
pcs ?
Benjamin
2-Nov-2005
[124x2]
i dont know Graham, im working on providing a solution for those 
without /pro,
i have almost finish the utility it I'll post it as soon i finish 
the testing, the solutions is very much like reb2win it provides 
the same functionality plus COM supporting,    the cost of the license 
is in USD, is too expensive to me I'll buy it some day im sure :) 
i can barely pay my Internet connection, anyway my philosophy is 
not to buy software it doesn't matter if its windows or rebol. we 
all could doit better with free soft.