World: r3wp

sorry, I just can't be bothered. fetching what I need off a website 
is way more reliable for me.

so, here you go with your solution for usb driver :-) That sounds 
like real luxury, as for W98 archaic machines I would expect dial-up 
connection, not fast Internet line :-)

the "strange" fact is that the machines are always accessible on 
a LAN, which is why I prefer using the internet to transfer data 
between machines at home and customers.

anyhow, back to work :-)

Hi Henrik, 

I've had some really nice experiences with Qtask. Just upload a zip 
of all the files you might need, and download only those ones you 
actually need in a given situation. Real sweet.

Qtask has Filesharing. My kids use them instead of USB drives.

Another Windows Vista feature bites the dust - http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,2180,1973620,00.asp

The http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2006/06/unenterprisey-languages-meeting.html
meeting was mildly interesting.  Robert Strandh showed how he reimplemented 
metafont in common lisp with the main aim that he could provide print 
services for his G# music score editor.  This was implemented as 
a DSL, and printing done by converting the DSL to postscript.  Familiar??

The Erlang talk was also interesting .. to learn about a language 
designed for failure .. pity the demo was not well done.  Io - bit 
boring for me.  And Chris Double talked about javascript with continuations, 
and threads.

have you held your Rebol presentation? :-)

their Mnesia product is pretty impressive http://www.erlang.se/doc/doc-5.0.1/lib/mnesia-3.9.2/doc/

Interesting - something like that we wanted for IOS, right?

not just IOS

As of May 2006 The Encyclopedia of Computer Languages by Murdoch 
University, Australia lists 8512 computer languages.

somehow Rebol made it on this shootout.. http://dada.perl.it/shootout/craps.html

FreeBasic - completly free variant of BASIC with surprising level 
of features - http://www.freebasic.net/index.php/about

http://www.potix.com/zkdemo/userguide/

nice, but really lagging, they should improve blitting a bit ...

looking at source- it is like VID, just an xml

maybe nice for the first look, but I don't like it

The page or component you request is no longer available. This is 
normally caused by timeout, or opening too many Web pages. 
Continue cruising ZK Demo .  
Failed to invoke zkBox.init
zkBox is not defined

Cannot imagine making some bigger project in it

it is really slow on my 1.8Athlon, Mozilla 1.8b

so slow, that using it as a rich client environment would denerve 
me after some short period of time :-) Give me plug-in :-)

They need 10 not cached javascripts to display just the two lines 
of error message from above:-)

potix.com states, that they don't use java-script at all? :-)

Hm, from http://zk1.sourceforge.net/release/rn-2.0.0.html- All events 
are processed at the server. No JavaScript required. 
so it must be slow

hmm, that is really "clever"

and what is this:

<script type="text/javascript" src="/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/ext/prototype/prototype.js" 
charset="UTF-8"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/ext/aculo/effects.js" 
charset="UTF-8"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/ext/aculo/dragdrop.js" 
charset="UTF-8"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/html/boot.js" 
charset="UTF-8"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/html/lang/mesg.js" 
charset="UTF-8"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/html/common.js" 
charset="UTF-8"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/html/au.js" 
charset="UTF-8"></script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/datelabel.js.dsp" 
charset="UTF-8">

and why they have dynamic images? src="/zkdemo/zkau/web/zul/img/tree/root-open.gif;jsessionid=51580CB61B89633DED498444EB959AED"

>> s: 0 t: now/time/precise foreach js [
[    "/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/ext/prototype/prototype.js"
[    "/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/ext/aculo/effects.js"
[    "/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/ext/aculo/dragdrop.js"
[    "/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/html/boot.js"
[    "/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/html/lang/mesg.js"
[    "/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/html/common.js"
[    "/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/html/au.js"
[    "/zkdemo/zkau/web/js/zk/datelabel.js.dsp"
[    ][s: s + length? read join http://www.potix.comjs]
== 144313

>> print ["total js size:" s "downloaded in:" now/time/precise - 
t]
total js size: 144313 downloaded in: 0:00:07.406

it's almost the size of rebol/core:-)

and it's only advatntage is access to the DOM.

check this one out... its much better in all regards.  IMHO
http://www.openlaszlo.org/

its the first use of xml I find interesting.  I dare say its at least 
as simple as rebol within its context of creating web pages.

a good demo of how to code in openlaszlo ... http://www.laszlosystems.com/lps/laszlo-in-ten-minutes/

not working - server error 500 http://labs.openlaszlo.org/lzpix-dhtml/

but other examples are working - looks like nice flash apps:-)

we need someone with so nice ui skills :-)

Maxim: I will rather stay with my Rebol/Flash dialect and Rebol or 
PHP on the server side:-) but the true is, that some of the apps 
has nice design.

and hope with Rebol/plugin soon:-))

the flash version of lzpix definitely works.. follow the link from 
the home site...  :-)  its very fluid.

the lazlo in ten minutes... gave me the exact same reaction to when 
I first tried rebol view.  wow, it actually "works".

laszlo must have graphic artist with him. Such apps would be nice 
in View too .... e.g. I liked old capsule look of Oldes?

I will continue on my skined view layouts since at least new R3 alpha 
version will be released. I would like to use same source for making 
View layouts as for my R/Flash dialect in the future. Using graphic 
which is used for skinning windows.

The Flash version will be limited as now I can do much more things 
in Rebol then in Flash

Except fonts - it's a shame, that we cannot use custom embedded fonts 
in Rebol yet:(

does draw support czech chars?

it should support if you have correct regional settings

and correct font

so we can have AA fonts, right?