World: r3wp

web?

or we can establish new group .... this is interesting topic .... 
I would like to get everybody's idea, as VID will be redone for 3.0 
.... maybe we could move more towards css aproach and the like ....?

Exactly my thought as well.

Let me look through the massive list.

Hmmm, I don't see anything that exactly nails this topic.  Clearly 
this about UI, VID, widgets, ease of developement.   Perhaps...

Some names
VID - This perhaps is the most direct.
UI - This works too, and perhaps it is "UI - VID, Others"

I will make it, and we can always rename.

or VID+

Done.

ah, strange issue .... I swear I saw your post being longer, then 
group became red once again, it seems like edited down :-)

Yes.  I posted the complete contents of my edit buffer (Word), and 
deleted it and restarted.  Not that anything was important, but it 
may have read oddly (even for my posts).

Btw, before leaving this group, Firebug (for Firefox) goes a long 
way to making JS more transparent...

Agreed.

I wonder if plug-in could be used as partial replacement for javascript?

I mean - integrated in similar way, for usage purposes, not to replace 
it ....

NetKernel OS - anyone heard of this one? http://www.1060.org/

JAVA 6 to support scripting, speed-up client side GUI, etc - http://www.betanews.com/article/Sun_Releases_Second_Java_6_Beta/1150922228

some of JAVA 6 features - http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/features.html

Level of scripting support in JAVA 6 - http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=223

http://www.byoms.com(but keep tracking www.kozoru.com)

java. hated by end-users so much it's had to retreat from desktops 
& browsers to hide on the server. :-)

and it can stay there.

The battle is shifting beyond Windows and Linux," he says. "Google 
isn't concerned about what executes down on the client machine, whether 
it's Windows or Linux. The action has moved up a level. The real 
innovation in software is not occurring in the context of the 1980s 
and 1990s PC. It's occurring in applications that reside in the broader 
Web. The interesting innovations are going to occur around different 
ways to organize and share and access information."" -- Paul Maritz 
(once 3rd in comand at Microsoft) regarding his new venture.. PI 
 http://www.forbes.com/technology/2006/06/23/linux_vista_open_cz_dl_0623linux.html

The rise and fall of CORBA. Quite interesting: http://www.acmqueue.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=396

http://toute.ca/- a system REBOL was born to have (forget the 
continuations, think about the message passing).

doable in R3?

I was thinking along the lines of a dialect in R2.

If I reuse the Rugby I/O engine..... I think if we use a few conventions 
for leightwight processes migration might be possible as well...

with triple transport: http, tcp, UDP

go for it!

doesn't erlang allow for distributed cpu processing as well on nodes

would be nice to take advantage of dual core processors

what is it about and what the benefits would be?

fault tolerance

We saw attempts for some concepts, like Chord, which already failed 
due to unstable low-level networking code ....

error propagation

messaging system? OK, I will better investiigate the link ....

distributed virus networks

where does it fit with Uniserve, Rugby, Rebservices, Beer? Is it 
an upper layer, transport independent?

docs here .. he can answer that

UniServe's kernel is just a fin layer abstracting REBOL's low-level 
IO. So everything network-related will be above UniServe.

I had a look at Termite's paper, I don't see what's really new there 
?

Portable continuations? Process proxies to devices?

It's erlang implemented with the full power of Scheme.

full
 as in distributed

Imagine a database query you create, capture as continuation and 
distribute as process to whoever wants the last 10 customers.

Mozilla Firefox 2 Beta 1 has been released. This milestone for developers 
and testers includes several new features including anti-phishing, 
browser session restore in case of a crash, support for client-side 
session and persistent storage, ability to re-open accidentally closed 
tabs, support for JavaScript 1.7, new Windows installer based on 
Nullsoft Scriptable Install System, new microsummaries feature for 
bookmarks, new search plugin manager and better support for previewing 
and subscribing to web feeds.

http://www.mozillazine.org/talkback.html?article=10979

does it still freeze during downloads?

That's my pet dislike about FF .. it freezes all the windows while 
downloading files