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Oldes 28-Jan-2007 [1610] | US answer to global warming: smoke and giant space mirrors http://environment.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,1999968,00.html |
xavier 29-Jan-2007 [1611] | sounds like a joke. How do they want to stop the warming with that ? it can only make things worst |
Graham 29-Jan-2007 [1612x2] | Gee... if the mirror gets stuck in place .. we enter a new ice age instead. |
Looks like the US answer is all smoke and mirrors | |
xavier 29-Jan-2007 [1614] | yes ... very preoccupating. I hope REAL scientists will do something |
Pekr 29-Jan-2007 [1615] | Adobe Systems today announced that it has released the full PDF (Portable Document Format) 1.7 specification to AIIM, the Association for Information and Image Management. AIIM, in turn, will start working on making PDF an ISO standard. |
Henrik 29-Jan-2007 [1616] | that is very good news |
Pekr 29-Jan-2007 [1617] | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS2782821882.html |
Pekr 30-Jan-2007 [1618] | The Hat Box PC - nice design :-) http://www.mini-itx.com/ |
Henrik 30-Jan-2007 [1619] | http://getfirebug.com/<--- a little more help is now available if you are doing traditional web development |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [1620x2] | it's interesting, but seems to be a little bit buggy as my firefox now hav some problems with scrolling even when I disabled the firebug |
(when I use wheel) | |
Gabriele 30-Jan-2007 [1622] | I use firebug since more than a year, and we all use it heavily in the qtask team. it's really great. oldes: maybe it has problems with some other extension you have installed? |
Oldes 30-Jan-2007 [1623] | I have onlu AdBlock and NoScript. But don't have such a problem. I disabled the firebug now as I don't need it and when I will need it in the future I can enable it again and live with my mouse wheel blocked a little bit for a while:) |
Pekr 30-Jan-2007 [1624] | New interesting blog ob bbrv - PA Semi about to deliver power efficient processors? I love those low power things :-) http://bbrv.blogspot.com/ |
[unknown: 9] 1-Feb-2007 [1625x2] | Marketing Ideas to lawyers AN ARTICLE FROM SUNDAY'S NEW YORK TIMES WE SHOULD READ CAREFULLY. Awaiting the Day When Everyone Writes Software By JASON PONTIN Published: January 28, 2007 BJARNE STROUSTRUP, the designer of C++, the most influential programming language of the last 25 years, has said that “our technological civilization depends on software.” True, but most software isn’t much good. Too many programs are ugly: inelegant, unreliable and not very useful. Software that satisfies and delights is as rare as a phoenix. Skip to next paragraph Sergei Remezov/Reuters Charles Simonyi, chief executive of Intentional Software, in training for his trip to the International Space Station, scheduled for April. Multimedia Podcast: Weekend Business Reporters and editors from The Times's Sunday Business section offer perspective on the week in business and beyond. How to Subscribe All this does more than frustrate computer users. Bad software is terrible for business and the economy. Software failures cost $59.5 billion a year, the National Institute of Standards and Technology concluded in a 2002 study, and fully 25 percent of commercial software projects are abandoned before completion. Of projects that are finished, 75 percent ship late or over budget. The reasons aren’t hard to divine. Programmers don’t know what a computer user wants because they spend their days interacting with machines. They hunch over keyboards, pecking out individual lines of code in esoteric programming languages, like medieval monks laboring over illustrated manuscripts. Worse, programs today contain millions of lines of code, and programmers are fallible like all other humans: there are, on average, 100 to 150 bugs per 1,000 lines of code, according to a 1994 study by the Software Engineering Institute at Carnegie Mellon University. No wonder so much software is so bad: programmers are drowning in ignorance, complexity and error. Charles Simonyi, the chief executive of Intentional Software, a start-up in Bellevue, Wash., believes that there is another way. He wants to overthrow conventional coding for something he calls “intentional programming,” in which programmers would talk to machines as little as possible. Instead, they would concentrate on capturing the intentions of computer users. Mr. Simonyi, the former chief architect of Microsoft, is arguably the most successful pure programmer in the world, with a personal fortune that Forbes magazine estimates at $1 billion. There may be richer programmer-billionaires — Bill Gates of Microsoft and Larry Page of Google come to mind — but they became rich by founding and managing technology ventures; Mr. Simonyi rose mainly by writing code. He designed Microsoft’s most successful applications, Word and Excel, and he devised the programming method that the company’s software developers have used for the last quarter-century. Mr. Simonyi, 58, was important before he joined Microsoft in 1981, too. He belongs to the fabled generation of supergeeks who invented personal computing at Xerox PARC in the 1970s: there, he wrote the first modern application, a word processor called Bravo that displayed text on a computer screen as it would appear when printed on page. Even at leisure, Mr. Simonyi, who was born in Hungary and taught himself programming by punching machine code on Russian mainframes, is a restless, expansive personality. In April, he will become the fifth space tourist, paying $20 million to board a Russian Soyuz rocket and visit the International Space Station. Mr. Simonyi says he is not disgusted with big, bloated, buggy programs like Word and Excel. But he acknowledges that he is disappointed that we have been unable to use “our incredible computational ability” to address efficiently “our practical computational problems.” “Software is truly the bottleneck in the high-tech horn of plenty,” he said. Mr. Simonyi began thinking about a new method for creating software in the mid-1990s, while he was still at Microsoft. But his ideas were so at odds with .Net, the software environment that Microsoft was building then, that he left the company in 2002 to found Intentional Software. “It was impractical, when Microsoft was making tremendous strides with .Net, to send somebody out from the same organization who says, ‘What if you did things in this other, more disruptive way?’ ” he said in the January issue of Technology Review. For once, that overfavored word — “disruptive” — is apt; intentional programming is disruptive. It would automate much of software development. The method begins with the intentions of the people inside an organization who know what a program should do. Mr. Simonyi calls these people “domain experts,” and he expects them to work with programmers to list all the concepts the software must possess. The concepts are then translated into a higher-level representation of the software’s functions called the domain code, using a tool called the domain workbench. At two conferences last fall, Intentional Software amazed software developers by demonstrating how the workbench could project the intentions of domain experts into a wonderful variety of forms. Using the workbench, domain experts and programmers can imagine the program however they want: as something akin to a PowerPoint presentation, as a flow chart, as a sketch of what they want the actual user screen to look like, or in the formal logic that computer scientists love. Thus, programmers and domain experts can fiddle with whatever projections they prefer, editing and re-editing until both parties are happy. Only then is the resulting domain code fed to another program called a generator that manufactures the actual target code that a computer can compile and run. If the software still doesn’t do what its users want, the programmers can blithely discard the target code and resume working on the domain workbench with the domain experts. As an idea, intentional programming is similar to the word processor that Mr. Simonyi developed at PARC. In the jargon of programming, Bravo was Wysiwyg — an acronym, pronounced WIZ-e-wig, for “what you see is what you get.” Intentional programming also allows computer users to see and change what they are getting. “Programming is very complicated,” Mr. Simonyi said. “Computer languages are really computer-oriented. But we can make it possible for domain experts to provide domain information in their own terms which then directly contributes to the production of the software.” Intentional programming has three great advantages: The people who design a program are the ones who understand the task that needs to be automated; that design can be manipulated simply and directly, rather than by rewriting arcane computer code; and human programmers do not generate the final software code, thus reducing bugs and other errors. NOT everyone believes in the promise of intentional programming. There are three common objections. The first is theoretical: it is based on the belief that human intention cannot, in principle, be captured (or, less metaphysically, that computer users don’t know what people want). The second is practical: to programmers, the intentional method constitutes an “abstraction” of the underlying target code. But most programmers believe that abstractions “leak” — that is, they fail to perfectly represent the thing they are meant to be abstracting, which means software developers must sink their hands into the code anyway. The final objection is cynical: Mr. Simonyi has been working on intentional programming for many years; only two companies, bound to silence by nondisclosure agreements, acknowledge experimenting with the domain workbench and generator. Thus, no one knows if intentional programming works. Sheltered by Mr. Simonyi’s wealth, Intentional Software seems in no hurry to release an imperfect product. But it is addressing real and pressing problems, and Mr. Simonyi’s approach is thrillingly innovative. If intentional programming does what its inventor says, we may have something we have seldom enjoyed as computer users: software that makes us glad. Jason Pontin is the editor in chief and publisher of Technology Review, a magazine and Web site owned by M.I.T. E-mail: [pontin-:-nytimes-:-com]. |
A friend of mine headed the intentional programming project at MS..................he currently works at a Jamba Juice (this is not a Joke). | |
Graham 1-Feb-2007 [1627x2] | what's intentional programming? |
oops .. had my cache set to 10000 so I can see some old messages ...and that made scrolling somewhat problematic | |
Sunanda 1-Feb-2007 [1629] | Intentional programming reminds me of the hype around the "The Last One" program generator a generation or so ago. (So called as it was the last program you'd ever need to buy -- it could write all the others for you)....I remember chuckling at the time at how seriously some people took it in the few months it took to drop completely out of sight: http://www.presshere.com/html/wf8104.htm |
Henrik 1-Feb-2007 [1630] | So if there is intentional programming, there is unintentional programming? |
Geomol 1-Feb-2007 [1631x4] | I know of something called creative programming! ;-) |
Reichart, I read the article, and my opinion is, that you will always need good programmers, no matter what abstraction you make to the problem. A good programmer (or more general: developer) can something, a typical user can't. The developer can - based on logic - see the consequences of different rules within the software. When users are alloud to decide, how the software should work, you always end up with something, which will break logically, when some situation occur. A good developer can think of that beforehand and make sure, the whole system of rules makes sense and do the right thing, whatever will happen. The user may be happy for a while, if she "designed" the software, but a little later it'll break down logically, and she'll loose money and time again. | |
It's the ability to make something consistent, that make a good programmer. It's my experience, that very few people are really good at that. | |
alloud = allowed | |
Volker 1-Feb-2007 [1635x2] | Spending years to learn correct spelling, but spending no time to learn correct logic - are'nt users silly ;) |
not correct logic, computer logic. | |
Maarten 1-Feb-2007 [1637] | Ah, you can't spell either ;-) |
Volker 1-Feb-2007 [1638] | You catched me. :-) |
[unknown: 9] 1-Feb-2007 [1639x3] | you will always need good programmers We strongly disagree, in fact the time of no need for programmers is probably closer than we (programmers) want. AI will one day be good enough to solve domain problems. The architecture of computer systems will be self correcting, responsive, and self writing one day. Software will fix itself in response to millions if not billions of people reacting to using it, and it will slowly and systematically correct itself, improve itself, and even offer new features simply for test. In other words, software will eventually self evolve. |
Consider nothing more than a routine that studies what options people select for themselves. I reset my Word (and anything else I have control over) to *always* use Helvetica. I *always* set my WinAmp to be "Always on top". When I walk up to an ATM, I *never* select "Spanish". When I get in my car I *never* want the radio "ON" What if people's settings were simply gathered in a central database. Categorized, etc. What if every button on software had a unique ID, and a genus, and like senses or never endings created stronger connection in the database by how often they were pressed… The species of button called "Play | Pause" would be very strong. It's brother "FF | RW" would be pretty well connected as well. | |
and like senses or never endings created should be and like sensors or nerve endings created | |
Oldes 1-Feb-2007 [1642] | I would like to know, what all the people will be doing in the future where even programming will be automated:( It scares me a little bit |
Sunanda 1-Feb-2007 [1643] | I've been hearing that, Reichart, for at least 30 years. It remains as partially true as it ever was -- like we ned very few people to write spreadsheet programs, while zillions have been enabled to write spreadsheets. But it's hardly a self-evident conclusion for (say) someone considering a new career |
[unknown: 9] 1-Feb-2007 [1644x2] | That is so sad that it scares you. Does it scare you that "your" people no longer have a job which is to collect the buckets of feces from people's homes. There is no longer a guy in town that cuts hair AND pulls teeth? That there is no work for the guy that stored ice from, and delivered it to homes? What about the entire industry that used to wash clothes with their hands, or WHAT ABOUT all the scribes (monks) those pesky Germans put out of business with that automatic machine that made copies of copies instantly. Sundanda, untrue. You are blinded by your own time frame and reference. Don't look at what was promised or what can be done, look at what was not talked about and "IS" Needless shots Flat screens In-ear wireless communication Solar power (PV) Microwave ovens Glues (I can name 50 amazing adhesives that have changed the word) Growable organs UCAVs (Robots in the sky). |
Your life "IS" longer, and better, way better. The top 10 things that might have killed you 100 years ago are not even on the list today. | |
Oldes 1-Feb-2007 [1646] | Reichard: so just tell me what al the people will be doing? |
Maarten 1-Feb-2007 [1647] | Sunanda, Reichart, based on your combined reasonings self-correcting software won't come into existence. Somethinge even better will wipe the concept "software" of the earth. Yay! |
Sunanda 1-Feb-2007 [1648x2] | <<Sundanda, untrue.>> I got a 30 year old analysis of Nostradamus' predictions -- it uses certain verses to prove that he predicted the atom bomb, cold war, WW2 etc. I got a flyer the other day analysing Nostradamus' predictions -- it uses certain verses to prove that he predicted the Al Qaeda airplane attacks on the USA in 2001. *** Oddly, it is the same verses used in both cases. **** Similarly, I am still hearing the _same_ predications about the end of programming over the same timescale. Experience suggests caution in accepting the latest rendition of an old, old song. *** Oops -- I've very nearly invoked Gresham'a law: |
Double oops -- I mean Godwin's law, of course. | |
BrianH 1-Feb-2007 [1650x2] | I think that the end-of-programming predictions come true all of the time. It's just that the new systems require work as well, and though that work is often very different, people call the new work "programming". So, since there are still people "programming" people think that the prediction failed. It didn't fail - the concept was just redesigned to match the new needs. |
I have very little idea wha I will be doing 10 years from now, but I'm willing to bet that people will call it "programming". | |
[unknown: 9] 1-Feb-2007 [1652x2] | 10 years, sure...100, unlikely. |
Oldes, why do people "have" to do something? | |
Tomc 1-Feb-2007 [1654] | hrian with a nod to FORTRAN |
BrianH 1-Feb-2007 [1655] | Hey, in a hundred years I don't even expect that the language that people speak will be recognizable. It'll be called "English" though. |
Tomc 1-Feb-2007 [1656] | and our precious spelling will be ...quaint |
BrianH 1-Feb-2007 [1657] | Tomc, yeah, I've heard that joke told about FORTRAN and COBOL, and lately Java and C++. |
Graham 1-Feb-2007 [1658] | has english changed that much in 100 years apart from the addition of new words? |
BrianH 1-Feb-2007 [1659] | It's mostly the addition of new concepts, and changing patterns in grammar that come from mixing in other languages and cultures. The new words are almost incidental. |
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