World: r3wp

This is from the time where the Apple clones were killed, as Apple 
lost a lot of money to them, since they couldn't compete with them. 
Removing the clones and prohibiting use of MacOS on other than Apple 
hardware "solved" that problem.

So, what happens if you want to run Vista as your main OS on an Intel 
based Mac, and to run OSX virtually?

No, that license restriction is in the earliest versions of the MacOS, 
even back in the 68k days. It might have been loosened in the clone 
days temporarily.

graham, that would not make sense?

I'm sure the clone manufacturers lost a lot of money too when Apple 
pulled the plug

Why not?

Graham, that may be within the license restrictions. No commercial 
virtualizer will implement this though.

yes they did, but Apple would have been rammed into the ground, had 
the clones been kept.

So Amiga developers were involved in the clone business eg Dave Haynie

Some

yep, Power Computing

Mac hardware is very nice .. but if your main OS is windows ...

Apple is a hardware company. They see the OS as just an enabling 
technology, whether they can legally call it that or not.

Itunes is hardware?

They removed the "Computer" from Apple ..

What do you miss in Windows that can't be done in Parallels or VMWare?

iTunes is there to sell iPods. That's why they have the DRM.

Graham, do you know how much hardware Apple makes?

BTW, when I said "enabling technology" I didn't mean enabling us, 
I meant enabling them to sell us stuff.

They make servers, music players, wifi hubs, displays, desktop computers 
in 3 different form factors, set top boxes, laptops, remotes, speaker 
systems, and soon they will be making phones as well.

Apple is very much a hardware company.

except they had a legal name change removing the word computer from 
their name

Steve Jobs recently asked the music industry to consider removing 
DRM

yes, because of all these non-computer things they are selling :-)

Well, even though most of the hardware they sell is computers, most 
of it isn't called computers anymore.

I couldn't get Vmware working to install XP.

I should try again.

Yes, Jobs asked the music industry to remove DRM, and yet won't himself 
even when requested to do so by the artists.

It wouldn't recognise my dvd drive or something.  So, maybe i need 
to install from ISO image.

Does anyone find it annoying that if you click and press by mistake, 
this icon menu appears in front of you?

( me = heavy handed )

BrianH, artists? you mean the record companies? I doubt the artists 
have much to say about this.

removing DRM would be a big plus for Apple vs MS

graham, what menu, explain?

often without the intention on my part, these icons fly in from outer 
screen and cover my main windown

I have to click on the working application to make them go away

the dashboard?

dunno what it's called.... apart from annoying

if you press F12, does the same happen?

dunno .. at present I'm only using the Mac to watch House MD that 
I've downloaded ...

make sure that no mouse gestures are enabled for dashboard then.

you can do that in system preferences

If an artist or label wants to sell music on iTunes with no DRM, 
Apple won't do it. There are documented cases for this, for which 
I am too lazy to provide a link.

Ok, that sounds like something I should do ...

BrianH, it might be a contractual issue. I'd bet that those contracts 
are rather hairy.

VLC keeps crashing with an error requester if I keep using the remote 
to pause the movie .. to explain to my daughter some esoteric medical 
thing ..!

At least Safari seems stable ... not like Firefox on Windows

VLC under OSX is unfortunately very unstable. it's annoying.

graham, since v1.5 firefox has never crashed for me, when it used 
to crash about 5 times a day beforehand.  v2 seems even better.

better than 0 crashes? :D

hehe... v2 seems to have less "issues" which are not related to crashes... 
refresh bugs and things like that  :-)