World: r3wp

as many have said before... R2 and current plugin are great tools. 
 why are you keeping from using them?

Maxim  - damned proxy support!

ah

... and we were SO close. Josh had it solved, then he announced Carl 
redirected him to something else, then he was about to post some 
security related doc - that never happened.

well that's not just the plugin then.

(proxy)

I agree that the no 1 problem of RT is not the technology... it the 
management of priorites and schedules and stuff like that.

hum... starting to make me thing of another great technology which 
had the same issues... yet was 10 years in advance ;-)

just like REBOL

(amiga anyone)

at least we know the reasons are not the same and that RT itself 
is good willed.

just need more indians ... but not enough food to feed them I guess.

Hi,

Skype has a worm now...


http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/04/16/tech-securitymsskypewindowszonealarm-20070416.html

In case you haven't seen it yet...

oh dear

you still have to click on it...

Microsoft has given a go-to-market name for its cross-platform, cross-browser 
plug-in for delivering the next generation of user experiences and 
rich Internet applications for the Web. The technology formerly known 
as WPF/E is now known as Silverlight - http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2114418,00.asp

with R3... I think they might have another competitor they are not 
aware of yet  ;-)

then let's hope some of View issues are adressed (keyboard, make 
events (Gabriele confirmed this one), refresh rate, rich text, etc.)

pekr, since should  be able to fix most of those ourselves (for those 
who need to address the issues for real),  then I see R3 as a bright 
beacon in my future.

I've already been thinking of doing some integration with .net.

it is a pity Carl does not visit altme from time to time. I miss 
blog capability of "suggest a blog topic", which was promissed a 
bit ... I would like to know, what's in the pipe for View ... will 
Desktop be enhanced? Reworked? Removed? The same goes for VID - should 
it be part of View? Or an external module? Should View contain only 
generic gfx functions? (kind of face)

.net just cause it would help me push rebol into more use.

AFAICT its like the sdk, you can choose, enhance, but now we will 
also have access to lower levels.  the desktop source has been available 
for years and very little real community support exists.  we mostly 
do not care to much for the desktop.

its a good start point, but its not enough... just the user management 
is enough to make it almost useless in corporate places.

since I don't need it I've never fixed it, but it would be pretty 
easy to just make sure the user is the actual user logon so that 
any configs are really the user's (and can be right-protected by 
admins)

I agree, that is why I ask - is there any strategy for View product? 
That is not question to RT themselves,but also to us ...

this kind of thing is what prevents REBOL use in many situations... 
the details for programmers are paramount for managers.

which is why I have been thinking much more like a manager and an 
end-user lately.

I still can see browser plug-in as important for RT's strategy, but 
we have not seen Josh's doc, which should be out soon ;-) (xy months 
ago)

(for the development of elixir)

I'm using the plugin within high-end software web architecture and 
its pretty amazing... doing 3 simultaneous streams of async, on demand 
with interruptions of xfers and background i/o all completely invisible 
to the GUI, (no gui jams)

the tool accesses a web service through XML from an IIS server so 
the server's manager doesn't even see the difference  :-)

http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/only_244_copies_of_genuine_windows_vista_sold_in_china.php

Vista is a mess, so what? :-)

Next Generation high-performance processor unveiled - http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/next-generation-high-performance-processor-unveiled-13080.html
... is that for real? :-)

sounds vague and generic to me.

I heard about 100+GHz processors several years ago. Where are they 
?

PS3 Cell + REBOL 3 = Amiga 3 :-) - your new supercomputer

where are 100Ghz processors? I think in liquid nitrogen ;)

Microsoft to roll out dynamic-language layer for .Net: http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=404

at least thats the rumor

It will be difficult to beat Flash novadays:


Adobe Systems plans to open-source Flex, its development framework 
for building Flash and Apollo-based applications. The company on 
Wednesday is expected to announce the move, which will start when 
it releases a beta of the next version of Flex, code-named Moxie, 
in June.

What about the REBOL/Flash dialect.  It's old already, sorry, I mean 
it's Oldes' already.  :)

:-)

yes, maybe we should take really another aproach - simply to integrate, 
not to compete? Why not to link e.g. to wx-widgets, for those who 
want? Or other libraries, etc.?

I hope linking to libraries is somehow improved and limitations like 
nember of callbacks allowed is removed ...

I think we'll be getting a flurry of news after DevCon.  Hoping anyway.

I am hoping too .... but according to blogs, you can "feel", that 
R3 kernel is not ready for release yet, well, just IMO :-) Carl mentioned, 
that just "few days ago" he was able to download first website, or 
something like that.


As for me, I expect (and prefer) early alpha R3 release, where basic 
infrastructure is in-place - tasking, device, event, timers, plug-ins 
(extensibility), and things like RIF, unicode, BCD etc. coming later 
...

as I said before, I think that the remark about first downloaded 
webpage does mean that TCP & HTTP protocols are ready and does not 
say anything about state of R3 kernel. And IIRC, TCP and HTTP are 
outside the R3 kernel.

as are timers :-) but those are essential. Simply put - Carl tries 
to keep R3's sources closed, and as much cross-platform as possible 
- hopefully for RT porting Rebol to new platform will mean "just" 
recompiling Rebol "kernel" source code. However - that source code 
will not be able to run without surrounding devices.