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Maxim
17-Apr-2007
[1922x2]
its a good start point, but its not enough... just the user management 
is enough to make it almost useless in corporate places.
since I don't need it I've never fixed it, but it would be pretty 
easy to just make sure the user is the actual user logon so that 
any configs are really the user's (and can be right-protected by 
admins)
Pekr
17-Apr-2007
[1924]
I agree, that is why I ask - is there any strategy for View product? 
That is not question to RT themselves,but also to us ...
Maxim
17-Apr-2007
[1925x2]
this kind of thing is what prevents REBOL use in many situations... 
the details for programmers are paramount for managers.
which is why I have been thinking much more like a manager and an 
end-user lately.
Pekr
17-Apr-2007
[1927]
I still can see browser plug-in as important for RT's strategy, but 
we have not seen Josh's doc, which should be out soon ;-) (xy months 
ago)
Maxim
17-Apr-2007
[1928x3]
(for the development of elixir)
I'm using the plugin within high-end software web architecture and 
its pretty amazing... doing 3 simultaneous streams of async, on demand 
with interruptions of xfers and background i/o all completely invisible 
to the GUI, (no gui jams)
the tool accesses a web service through XML from an IIS server so 
the server's manager doesn't even see the difference  :-)
Henrik
19-Apr-2007
[1931]
http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/only_244_copies_of_genuine_windows_vista_sold_in_china.php
Pekr
19-Apr-2007
[1932]
Vista is a mess, so what? :-)
Pekr
25-Apr-2007
[1933]
Next Generation high-performance processor unveiled - http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/next-generation-high-performance-processor-unveiled-13080.html
... is that for real? :-)
Henrik
25-Apr-2007
[1934]
sounds vague and generic to me.
Anton
25-Apr-2007
[1935]
I heard about 100+GHz processors several years ago. Where are they 
?
Pekr
25-Apr-2007
[1936]
PS3 Cell + REBOL 3 = Amiga 3 :-) - your new supercomputer
Rebolek
25-Apr-2007
[1937]
where are 100Ghz processors? I think in liquid nitrogen ;)
Mchean
25-Apr-2007
[1938x2]
Microsoft to roll out dynamic-language layer for .Net: http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=404
at least thats the rumor
Pekr
27-Apr-2007
[1940]
It will be difficult to beat Flash novadays:


Adobe Systems plans to open-source Flex, its development framework 
for building Flash and Apollo-based applications. The company on 
Wednesday is expected to announce the move, which will start when 
it releases a beta of the next version of Flex, code-named Moxie, 
in June.
btiffin
27-Apr-2007
[1941]
What about the REBOL/Flash dialect.  It's old already, sorry, I mean 
it's Oldes' already.  :)
Pekr
27-Apr-2007
[1942x3]
:-)
yes, maybe we should take really another aproach - simply to integrate, 
not to compete? Why not to link e.g. to wx-widgets, for those who 
want? Or other libraries, etc.?
I hope linking to libraries is somehow improved and limitations like 
nember of callbacks allowed is removed ...
btiffin
27-Apr-2007
[1945]
I think we'll be getting a flurry of news after DevCon.  Hoping anyway.
Pekr
27-Apr-2007
[1946]
I am hoping too .... but according to blogs, you can "feel", that 
R3 kernel is not ready for release yet, well, just IMO :-) Carl mentioned, 
that just "few days ago" he was able to download first website, or 
something like that.


As for me, I expect (and prefer) early alpha R3 release, where basic 
infrastructure is in-place - tasking, device, event, timers, plug-ins 
(extensibility), and things like RIF, unicode, BCD etc. coming later 
...
Rebolek
27-Apr-2007
[1947]
as I said before, I think that the remark about first downloaded 
webpage does mean that TCP & HTTP protocols are ready and does not 
say anything about state of R3 kernel. And IIRC, TCP and HTTP are 
outside the R3 kernel.
Pekr
27-Apr-2007
[1948x2]
as are timers :-) but those are essential. Simply put - Carl tries 
to keep R3's sources closed, and as much cross-platform as possible 
- hopefully for RT porting Rebol to new platform will mean "just" 
recompiling Rebol "kernel" source code. However - that source code 
will not be able to run without surrounding devices.
So - R3's kernel is imo just cross-platform library, but nothing 
like OS kernel, where you normally need scheduler, timers, tasks, 
etc - those will be external here (open source), but essential - 
rebol kernel means nothing separately here - it can't run without 
them ...
btiffin
29-Apr-2007
[1950]
Anyone watch G4TechTV?


As a GNU/Linux fan, I didn't like the sounds of this particular discussion.

http://www.labwithleo.com/shownotes/episode2/notes

Which leads to

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

and at least one "response"


http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/archive/2007/01/20/windows-vista-content-protection-twenty-questions-and-answers.aspx

What the FUD is going on?
Maxim
29-Apr-2007
[1951]
yes Vista DRM is extremely Violent... the fact that it cannot differ 
from H/W and software bugs is a big can of worms... imagine you have 
a faulty memory stick and suddenly, your monitor goes fuzzy, you 
have no clue what is going on...


now image that during a computer assisted surgery.... hum... yess... 
in this regard... Linux is starting to look more like a contender 
in strategic markets.
btiffin
29-Apr-2007
[1952]
Yeah, but what got me is that hardware vendors are going to have 
to keep specs, secret ot risk a ban from Microsoft.  Open sourcers 
won't get a chance to write drivers.  Bodes not well, it this is 
true.
Maxim
29-Apr-2007
[1953]
what got me was that the design prevents universal drivers!  that 
is shitty design.
btiffin
29-Apr-2007
[1954]
There is a lot in there, eh?  Bodes not well.  FUD fight!!!
Maxim
29-Apr-2007
[1955x3]
both are FUDing... I abide by the fact that the vast majority of 
computers cannot run vista out of the box in an "entertaining" manner. 
I don't understand why running a desktop needs 1GB of ram when you 
can play a multiplayer shootem up with particles, lens flares about 
10 million more times the polygons, over the network... wigh much 
less.
mygod a destop is a flat raster with other little rasters dangling 
over... 3d just applies these rasters to poly and distorts them... 
so its not like if it where rocket science.
SGI did much more 10 years ago... ;-)
Henrik
29-Apr-2007
[1958]
Maxim, MS has a knack for turning anything into rocket science.
Maxim
29-Apr-2007
[1959]
hehe
btiffin
29-Apr-2007
[1960]
Yeah, I remember walking by an SGI demo with the rubber dog face, 
cool.
Maxim
29-Apr-2007
[1961]
and the 3d system browser with devices, files and applications all 
mixed into one slick rolling cube on cubes gui.
btiffin
29-Apr-2007
[1962]
I suggested to the demo runner that they coin the phrase cubicon. 
 I don't think they did.
Maxim
29-Apr-2007
[1963x3]
hehe
could have been me showing off the stuff  ;-)
I used to do demo at conventions... event did a few years at siggraph 
for nothing real ... before it was ransacked by apple.
btiffin
29-Apr-2007
[1966]
This was in Ottawa, in...nineteen eighty...something
Maxim
29-Apr-2007
[1967x2]
btw, all the good guys at nothing real still work at apple! which 
is quite rare for such takeovers  :-)
have to work on elixir... chatting off.... bye!  :-)
Anton
30-Apr-2007
[1969]
That NZ security researcher seems well-informed. I read a prior, 
smaller version of the article a few weeks ago.
Pekr
30-Apr-2007
[1970]
Bad news about Open Office efficiency? - http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=480
Sunanda
30-Apr-2007
[1971]
As far as I know (someone here told me) Open Office loads the whole 
application at start-up, while MS-stuff is more modular.

That leads to a larger footprint for OO as it loads loads of features 
unlikely to be used in any one session.
Modularity is apparently on the way, and will some difference.