World: r3wp

Not rebol, ios. Offline, quick distribution, a desktop for files 
and programms.

Thats where the others try to morph the browser.

volker, rebol is a platform, just like the browsers.

IOS is an application.

a browser has no "desktop"

rebol is the javascript of that thing. ios is the browser. browsers 
have http, cache and such.

it just loads html and runs it...  providing a gui space, an execution 
space ... all is defined within the html source.  just like a rebol 
app.

Mine has. back, forward, bookmarks

pasting an url. navigation and open things. thats desktop

You need that to deal with multiple "installations"/vendors of a 
webpage/script

no, a desktop is a virtualisation of a desk litterally.  there are 
html desktops too ("EYE OS")

replace the word desktop

rebol supplies its own DOM (view)

view even has its own desktop, just like ios...

something to find files and programms, which lookes the same for 
everyone.

ios actually provides something web browsers don't have by default.

view has read-thru, thats the more important part.

yes, they dont. but they want to get it.

well, I am thinking about it and even rebol/view has the offline 
capabilities which browser apps don't really have yet.

It adds just enough to AJAX to make current web applications work 
offline.
 thats what Sunanda startet with.

yes everyone is trying to get to it.

strange that we have been doing it for 5-6 years now.

Evrything with "online desktop" (to me focus on collaboration) is 
so outdated now.. ;)

So when someone suggests a better solution than incremental browser-improvements, 
i know one. I know both. The best incremental stuff, which gets attention, 
and the way it should work. Links to "rebuilds it radically better" 
are usually nothing new.

Except of shared editors like writely. But ios would do that now.

except IOS has bismal applications... sorry to say it so bluntly 
and it being not free, it never got the spin it would have had otherwise.

my thoughts also, Rebol has been doing it for 5 or 6 years already, 
and IOS is an example of how it might have been but didn't go far 
enough.

Now the market is catching up, so the advocacy issue has become harder

the 3000 lb gorilla has entered the room.

a $99 pc with all data stored on Amzon S3 for $12 a month! http://www.zonbu.com/home/index.htm

Sony's Flexible OLED http://youtube.com/watch?v=htn3_xQqo8s&mode=related&search=

Yahoo! Pipes. (Feed aggregator and manipulator).....
http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/

Photosynth  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-DqZ8jAmv0and http://labs.live.com/photosynth/

Some ultramobile PCs:

http://www.via.com.tw/en/initiatives/spearhead/nanobook/
http://event.asus.com/eeepc/

I have played with a few ASUS computers, they feel like toys.  Know 
anyone that has a good one?


800x600, sorry, NO!


All I want is my current computer, but with LESS stuff:

Fujitsu P7020

24 cm wide
1280x768
1.2 G

It kicks ass, ven gets about 8 hours batt from the two bays.
very small.



What I want is this same computer but even thinner, and with no harddrive 
(just 40Gigs of SD cards).

Other than a few extra buttons I would like to add (like physical 
volume control, and dedicated page buttons) I'm really happy with 
this computer.  It travels around the world with me.

ah, but 1500 USD ....

simply put - if we want our apps on cell phones, or PDAs, how 800x600 
can't be sufficient enough? I would like to see device slightly larger 
than PDA, with keyboard, touchscreen, with full OS, not reduced one 
...

New Bluetooth on the horizont, finally - http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2007/06/01/100050968/index.htm?postversion=2007061406

Opera Mini 4.0-beta was released today and this seems to be one of 
the best surprises of the year. It has Javascript, CSS support and 
zoom-in support similar to the iPhone's, but with all the processing 
happening to another server instead of your cellphone. Read more 
for screenshots and info! - http://www.osnews.com/story.php/18106/All-Hail-Mobile-Browsing-Opera-Mini-4.0-beta-Released/

The Gears that could ‘augur the death of Microsoft’ http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=562

Cool javascript library http://extjs.com/what-ext-javascript-library-all-about

yes, pretty cool

Hope VID+ is going to be as complete as this ...

ah, I expected really something special, as some cool js libraries 
links were posted already here.

may I ask what in particular is "pretty cool" there? Half of the 
demo is about a grid. Yes, in terms of html (but this is not html, 
this is simply js) it is probably good one, but Henrik's grid already 
has many more features (yet some lacking)

other than that, it shows nearly nothing special? We should not allow 
such stuff to impress us, just because, wow, this is possible in 
browsers? We should think - why do browsers suck bad way, that it 
takes 10 years to get such a features?

umm.. how old is Rebol ?

I expected exactly that question.

they might pretty much be lucky, that JS got under standards, because 
back in NS 4.9 days it was a mess ...

my point was, that we admire things, just because those are finally 
becoming being possible in browser world, whereas in normal rich-app 
world, that demo shows only subordinate functionality ...