World: r3wp

Opera Mini 4.0-beta was released today and this seems to be one of 
the best surprises of the year. It has Javascript, CSS support and 
zoom-in support similar to the iPhone's, but with all the processing 
happening to another server instead of your cellphone. Read more 
for screenshots and info! - http://www.osnews.com/story.php/18106/All-Hail-Mobile-Browsing-Opera-Mini-4.0-beta-Released/

The Gears that could ‘augur the death of Microsoft’ http://blogs.zdnet.com/Berlind/?p=562

Cool javascript library http://extjs.com/what-ext-javascript-library-all-about

yes, pretty cool

Hope VID+ is going to be as complete as this ...

ah, I expected really something special, as some cool js libraries 
links were posted already here.

may I ask what in particular is "pretty cool" there? Half of the 
demo is about a grid. Yes, in terms of html (but this is not html, 
this is simply js) it is probably good one, but Henrik's grid already 
has many more features (yet some lacking)

other than that, it shows nearly nothing special? We should not allow 
such stuff to impress us, just because, wow, this is possible in 
browsers? We should think - why do browsers suck bad way, that it 
takes 10 years to get such a features?

umm.. how old is Rebol ?

I expected exactly that question.

they might pretty much be lucky, that JS got under standards, because 
back in NS 4.9 days it was a mess ...

my point was, that we admire things, just because those are finally 
becoming being possible in browser world, whereas in normal rich-app 
world, that demo shows only subordinate functionality ...

nevertheless - last 2 years are good sign for those, who would like 
to have webserver plus browser kind of apps. So those ppl can concentrate 
upon Cheyenne plus rebol back end for eg., and front-end being based 
upon browser plus JS = you can find that client everywhere

but then you might miss things like rebservices in the future. hmm, 
maybe we can link rebol.dll library to jscript as sublibrary, so 
that we could use it? :-)

Death of Microsoft?  Not when they have stuff like.. http://labs.live.com/photosynth/

I need some good table handling in javascript ... so this is quite 
good for me.

http://www.nitobi.com/products/grid/?gclid=CI3svNLp7IwCFSLeZgodc0kZnQ

or just google "javascript grid"

Seems very painful to setup a js grid

the rebol plugin would be much simpler!

If the REBOL plugin is used to show the REBOL desktop, and I start 
a REBOL script there (one of the demos for example). Will the script 
be kept inside the browser, or will it be like if I started the script 
from REBOL in a normal way?

the rebol desktop is a bug ...

I'll check the next time I see it!

anyone seen Blazing Saddles? "The REBOL desktop is a DONNNGGGG!" 
:-) Kinda gives the same reaction, I think.

That Mel Brooks film, sure! :-) Now you make me think of the song 
"Blazing Saddles" by the Yello duo.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/usingiphone/guidedtour_medium.html<--- 
20 minute guided tour of the iPhone.

bah now i want one.. i should have never watched it :(

it's probably close to one of the most beautiful UIs I've ever seen.

pity you cant develop non-web apps for it - native apps would be 
impressive

wow!. just saw the merge calls bit - extremely sexy

What type of dolt would build a 100% web application?!?

huh?

i think Reichart was talking about prospective iPhone developers 
;)

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/30773/118

It really looks nice but I don't get it why the add sutff like YouTube? 
That's really of no value... I want a smartphone helping me to organiza 
myself better, to collaborte etc. I don't need a "how-to-waste-your-time" 
gadget.

My guess is, they add the popular stuff to secure sales first. Later 
you may get more of the useful stuff.

Apple -> Google -> Youtube. It seems to me that Apple want to access 
these services, because it's Google. They'll perhaps even let the 
phone record movies and upload them directly to youtube.

Python 3000 plans - we are not alone who radically redesigns language 
:-) http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=208549

Maybe some devs from here could look how P3 plans to support "Unicode, 
Codecs and I/O", and compare it with what is planned for R3.

RFID blocking wallets http://www.difrwear.com/index.shtml

Microsoft brainstorming on how should future start-from-the-scratch 
 OS look like - http://research.microsoft.com/os/singularity/publications/OSR2007_RethinkingSoftwareStack.pdf

Asus Eee PC review - http://www.hothardware.com/Articles/Hands_on_with_the_ASUS_Eee/
  .... would it be a good target for View? :-)

Very cute..................a lot like my P7010.  Will be a great 
machine for Qtask...

What brand is your P7010?

Fujitsu

interesting comparison of different font-rendering techniques - http://antigrain.com/research/font_rasterization/index.html

another notebook for children, from Intel - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070708-abrief-look-at-the-intel-classmate-pc-with-linux.html

Eee would be a good target for Syllable. :-) There are several tiny 
machines coming out that can use a tiny operating system

The Curl Programming Language is FUN. http://www.curl.com/

Slow, ask Robert ....