World: r3wp

What brand is your P7010?

Fujitsu

interesting comparison of different font-rendering techniques - http://antigrain.com/research/font_rasterization/index.html

another notebook for children, from Intel - http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070708-abrief-look-at-the-intel-classmate-pc-with-linux.html

Eee would be a good target for Syllable. :-) There are several tiny 
machines coming out that can use a tiny operating system

The Curl Programming Language is FUN. http://www.curl.com/

Slow, ask Robert ....

Slowness is not the biggest problem of Curl, but pricing is.
Pricing for commercial deployments starts at $12,000.

useful for governments then. they have that kind of money.

Anytnig make Curl "Great?"

For writing a RIA research article, I've spent 10 hours studing Curl, 
that didn't make me an expert, but so far:

1. I like the content-centric programming, it's kind of like MakeDoc 
+ RSP + RTF.

2. The macro facility seems powerful, which makes homemade DSL possible, 
I guess.
3. APIs seem complete.
4. The 2D and 3D rendering engine uses hardware-acceleration.
5. It's a Functional Language.
6. Unicode, Yes, even Curl supports Unicode.

Like I said, I am not an expert, so any of the items listed above 
could be wrong. Here is a DDJ article http://www.ddj.com/dept/architect/184413224

It is a longtime since I tried it.. But I recall it had fantastic 
support for units (weights, measures, distance) and intelligent conversion 
between them . But I can't find a link to any docs that show this 
anymore

doh!.. I should have looked at that article link first. ;-)

The Curl doc is not in HTML/PDF formats. It's a Curl Applet itself. 
After downloading and Installing the Curl IDE, you'll have the Curl 
document, which is an applet, like I said. You can find some interesting 
2D / 3D Curl applets in the curl.com web site. I am impressed by 
its 2D / 3D ability.

The curl people spammed us a few years ago

a lot of people on the rebol mailing list were spammed by them

http://apcmag.com/6759/interview_with_con_kolivas_part_1_computing_is_boring

Pyro - FF extension for off-line apps - http://pyrodesktop.org/Main_Page

re Pyro but is only for Linux at this time

Io language at Pixar - http://www.iolanguage.com/blog/blog.cgi

hmm, reading that, one must wonder, why there are no REBOL fans in 
such companies ....

I hope R3 might change some attitude, yet I am still afraid, that 
the main reason (not understandable to me) for some folks is open-source. 
It is like cult.

Hehe, I wonder how usable is the phone going to be :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR4ezMgRlWo&mode=related&search=

http://www.openmoko.org/

An OpenSource phone. Funny! And why not? It must come. This must 
be something for Reichart and others who ask for opensource. :-)

we should watch Rentrak in Portland, OR and deviantArt.com  as they 
have people open to languages - and it is my impression there is 
much more Ruby and Python happening in Los Angeles ... of course 
 Io lang will be fine because they have a good core community who 
chat daily (IRC) and becasue Steve ignores my suggestions ;-)

Motorola delivers first cell phone based upon Linux, with open development 
platform? - http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8917567693.html

The openmoko interview is listed at the Chaos Computer club germany 
website...  a coinsidence that you mention it btw...

The problem with lots of cellphone based on "linux" is that linux 
is not accesable at all... with the openmoko project Linux is also 
the OS but is fully usable for programming... They use a OEM phone 
hardware frmo [FIC]..openmoko is is the OS on top of Linux and is 
fairly based on GTK... (which is a stupid choise...) But because 
everything need to be OPEN in the openmoko project they selected 
GTK. Also Hardware-specs are OPEN. The Phone is already working !!! 
test version where tested in March this year... development is strong 
going...

The funny thing about this project is that a time of opening their 
FORUM-Websote they had instatly 3000 registered users online ;-)

here is the openmoko interview (in German) -> http://chaosradio.ccc.de/

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070810165237718


Finally, it's looking like SCO has lost their case against Novell.

.... this looks like the trial IBM versus Microsoft in the OS/2 cases...

QNXZone shuts down - http://www.qnxzone.com/.... this is what happens 
when company is bought by another one, which does not recognise the 
importance of community support. But maybe QNX is so good RTOS, that 
it can rely purely on its business customers ...

OpenGL 3 announced - recent news on OSNews.com

http://builtwith.com/default.aspx?qtask.com

http://www.losethos.com/<--- now here is a weird little operating 
system. It looks quite bad actually, but I guess Rebol 3 would be 
in direct competition with this, if Wildman will be done for standard 
PCs.

Terry, builtwith is not very accurate -- perhaps because it has no 
way on ascertaining the serverside environment.
For example, it assesses REBOL.org as using PHP and javascript.

REBOL.org uses no PHP at all -- I suspect builtwith is simply reporting 
one of the server into headers which names the version of PHP that 
the ISP provides.

Similarly, REBOL.org has no javascript -- just an empty <script>...</script> 
tag to prevent FOUC in older browsers.

Adobe Air (formerly Apollo) - nice initial page video - http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/air/

has anyone tried it? Pity R3 was not here 5 years ago ....

http://labs.adobe.com/showcase/air/

Downloaded AIR package, some 9MB .exe. They seem to have their own 
UI, which is kinda nice - kind of Confabulator type of apps, but 
proportional sizes of UI elements are terrible -  big buttons, small 
letters, etc.

and I don't understand it - they went one step back - they call it 
a "desktop integration" - basically they let their plug-in to run 
outside the browser, like we have with View installed for ages. They 
ask you, if you want to place "airlet" app icon on the desktop :-) 
I hope we beat them :-)

Check out Google Gears while you're at it.

It seems that Maxim Shemanarev (Author of AGG) now works for ScaleForm 
- http://www.scaleform.com....

But they seem to support OpenVG - http://www.khronos.org/openvg/
- so maybe they acquired Maxim, but not using AGG?

btw - openVG seems being HW accelerated, AGG is not (yet)

http://www.eetimes.com/news/semi/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201801083&pgno=1&printable=true
<--- 64-way CPU shipping.

content aware image resizing - http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/66481/detail/

That is so cool  another link: http://www.merl.com/projects/mediaretargeting/