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Pekr 21-Nov-2007 [2710] | FireFox 3.0 Beta - http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b1/releasenotes/ - many new enhancements, Gecko 1.9 based, rewritten engine, more standard compiant .... |
Henrik 29-Nov-2007 [2711] | NASA plans to land on Mars in 2031. Something tells me that they may not be the first to land there. |
Pekr 29-Nov-2007 [2712] | and who is going to? |
Henrik 29-Nov-2007 [2713] | China? |
Kaj 29-Nov-2007 [2714] | Richard Branson? |
Pekr 5-Dec-2007 [2715] | Preview of HTML 5 - http://www.alistapart.com/articles/previewofhtml5 |
Oldes 5-Dec-2007 [2716] | isn't it funny? Before thay said, that we have to use <div align=center> instead of tag <center> and now we will be allowed to use tags like <article> <footer> ... :-) |
Alek_K 5-Dec-2007 [2717] | <center>, <b>, <i> is for perception - and <article>, <footer> is for meaning. It makes sense for me. |
Chris 5-Dec-2007 [2718x2] | It seems a short-sighted attempt at paving the cowpaths. I appreciate the want to hardwire some of this stuff, but who decides and where does it stop? I'd far rather xhtml was cleaned up, that there is one markup language that allows for a lot with a basic set of building blocks. |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/radiolabs/2007/11/urls.shtml- this article was going well 'til they actually revealed their urls. Try reading the music centre urls over the phone... | |
Oldes 5-Dec-2007 [2720] | I thougth the trend is to make the urls human friendly |
Chris 5-Dec-2007 [2721x3] | That should read 'that there is *at least* one markup language...', not that there is only one markup language. One of the commenters suggested instead of inventing new tags for roles, why not have a 'role' attribute that serves the same function? That way you can expand the list of roles without brewing tag soup... |
<div role="section"> <ul role="navigation"> -- much more adaptable. | |
Though I admit, I've never liked the word 'div'. | |
Pekr 7-Dec-2007 [2724] | Ruby on Rails 2.0 released - http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2007/12/7/rails-2-0-it-s-done |
Graham 7-Dec-2007 [2725] | Sigh ..... |
Chris 11-Dec-2007 [2726] | => -- do most Ruby coders have a shortcut for this? |
Kaj 13-Dec-2007 [2727] | You mean hash syntax? |
Chris 15-Dec-2007 [2728x2] | Yep, or do they type out 'equals' 'less-than' each time? |
(sorry, greater-than - d'oh!) | |
Kaj 15-Dec-2007 [2730x3] | It's just >= |
Basically the only thing different from REBOL is != for the more traditional <> | |
And == because = is taken for assignment | |
Chris 15-Dec-2007 [2733] | My point is, it's not exactly convenient -- and it appears key to Ruby's 'dialects'. I know that Rebol is designed primarily for US English keyboards, and other layouts the [ ] symbols are harder to reach. But => is so clumsy, seems like a design flaw. |
Reichart 16-Dec-2007 [2734] | Or simply pure symbology, without regard to a physical limitation. Korean for example was designed to encode the phoneme in the least number of brush strokes, what would it have looked like had they not needed to use a brush? Sometimes you have to pick your constraints. |
Kaj 16-Dec-2007 [2735x2] | Chris, I don't understand. Greater-than-or-equals is just >= in Ruby, just like in REBOL. => is used in specifying a hash constant, as in PERL |
Ruby doesn't really have dialects, only some syntax sugar | |
Chris 16-Dec-2007 [2737x3] | I know, that's why I put 'dialects' in quotes. My understanding is they call groups of functions with bracketless hashes DSLs which we use as a synonym for Dialect. |
Re: => - I wouldn't consider this sugar -- it's a awkward key combination for such a core piece of syntax. I only ask as I was trying out IRB and it seemed weird. | |
R: => does look good in examples, indeed Ruby (in examples, if not slightly deeper into source) looks better than most languages. imo Rebol, at least when you get used to the types upon which the language is built, just feels right. | |
Pekr 17-Dec-2007 [2740] | I hope we will create visual apps like following for R3 plug-in one day - http://www.gaiaflashframework.com/ |
Oldes 17-Dec-2007 [2741] | You mean such a tutorial? The framework itself is not interesting for me. He made just a bitmap slideshow with tons of files required. All of this is made just in Flash IDE with some template used. |
Pekr 17-Dec-2007 [2742] | ah, looked like visual thing to me ... |
Pekr 19-Dec-2007 [2743] | IE8 passes ACID2 tests. That's cool :-) http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2007/12/19/internet-explorer-8-and-acid2-a-milestone.aspx |
Henrik 19-Dec-2007 [2744] | oh no. does that mean we have to root for IE now? |
Reichart 19-Dec-2007 [2745] | No, just a nice "golf clap" for them joining the race... |
Pekr 20-Dec-2007 [2746] | Apple pushes Think Secret to close the site - so much for your beloved Mac ... that sounds worse than MS .... |
Henrik 20-Dec-2007 [2747] | I'm not in defense on Apple here, but they do have really strict contractual obligations on what you can say to anyone when working for them. Apple employees are not allowed to talk to the press, family members, friends and even other Apple employees. If they do, they are fired immediately. The way Thinksecret obtained information was through breach of contract by Apple employees, similarly to how industrial espionage can be conducted. Because of this, they can prosecute. The secrecy around products is very strong, because Steve Jobs just doesn't want products disclosed before time. That's how they do things, it's their business strategy and that's what Apple users must accept. |
Pekr 20-Dec-2007 [2748] | Well, so they should solve it themselves inside their structures, that goes against the free speach. |
Henrik 20-Dec-2007 [2749] | Well, I'm surprised it didn't happen earlier. Thinksecret were known to have the deepest sources. Closing down was a settlement they made in exchange for not revealing the sources. The site became largely useless anyway after the first hints that Apple were going after Thinksecret. |
Chris 20-Dec-2007 [2750] | I wonder why they didn't try to undermine the site by seeding false information? |
Reichart 21-Dec-2007 [2751] | http://blog.internetgovernance.org/blog/_archives/2007/12/19/3419292.html |
Henrik 21-Dec-2007 [2752] | Chris, I believe the Asteroid product that caused them to sue was either fake or was pulled from development after being revealed on Thinksecret. |
Rebolek 21-Dec-2007 [2753] | It's OK for Apple to behave like they want, because, you know, it's Apple. If Steve Jobs starts to eat babies they probably have very high nutritious value, are really healthy and very tasty. Man, it's Steve Jobs! Who are you to argue with him? |
Henrik 21-Dec-2007 [2754] | Yes, how can one argue with him? They are successful today because of him. :-) That makes going against Apple more difficult. |
Reichart 28-Dec-2007 [2755] | Very cool http://www.gapminder.org |
Reichart 29-Dec-2007 [2756] | An interesting website I found http://www.curehunter.com/public/showTopPage.do Just look around, it is kind of fun little examples of tech spewed on a site. |
btiffin 7-Jan-2008 [2757] | Intel quietly pulled out of support for the XO One Laptop Per Child program. Hmm. More in chat. |
Robert 9-Jan-2008 [2758] | http://www.eye.fi/ Nice idea. |
Pekr 9-Jan-2008 [2759] | kind of hoax. |
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