World: r3wp

RobertS: I think it would be fine to see other interfaces to Qtask, 
maybe we could learn from that too, but you surely can't expect us 
being interested in Curl, can you? :-)

Did you see SUN Lively Kernel running on Safari 3.0  http://research.sun.com/projects/lively/
( ole SELF Morphic from Squeaky-town )  ?

oh, I am glad I tried it. It is 10times slower, than Cyphre's SWISS 
REBOL based desktop demo. We really need that plug-in thingy to show 
the world, their browser based aproaches are utter crap, what else 
can be said about it?

Since my post is long (and about Qtask, I will move it to the Qtask 
group).

FSF calls for boycott of Trend Micro;  http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/boycottTrendMicro.html
 over a lawsuit involving a competitors use of ClamAV in an infringing 
way.   Umm, scanning for viruses before they get into local networks 
is a patented process it seems.

I don't see the problem with TrendMicro in that situation.  Seems 
they have every legal right to do what they are doing.

Zimbra: http://www.zimbra.com/Again, someone eating IOS's cake.

Looks like someone is pouring money in SCO.

http://www.humanized.com/enso/words/<--- This seems like a good 
starting point for a full REBOL desktop. Remove Windows and base 
the input system directly on that. Nice and quick.

Yes, Enso is cool.  Aza's father was one of the designers of the 
Mac.  I talked to him a few months ago about REBOL in fact.  I have 
been running Enso for a while now.  I should use it more, since it 
really is powerful.

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp


FF is at 37.2%..........yeah baby...and so man said IE would have 
a death grip...

It was arrogance

on MS's part

IE is on death grip. In some EU countries FF is reaching over 45%.

IE is imo much less successfull. It is just point of view you look 
at it - When you start at nearly 100% market, and you are mostly 
arrogant monopolist, then we should thank to Mozilla foundation, 
because what they gained is imo significant achievement - very significant, 
imo.

The second factor is - IE's percentage is so high just becaues of 
one factor - it is preinstalled and that userbase does not really 
care - mostly corporations, etc. There was once time, when companies 
heavily used IE for intranets and used special features. IMO nowadays 
the situation is better - you can build good intranet solution using 
other browsers too.

Situation with mobile devices is even more interesting. We will see 
:-)

IE7 halts every couple of hours for me. Firefox is a better choice. 
Even on my costomers PC I prefer installing FireFox

there is no IE .... there is just "that blue 'e' internet icon" :-)

I was surprised, how far can you go with BASIC language :-) http://www.realbasic.com/products/realbasic/tour/
- complete IDE, debugger, the list of widgets is also cool ...

Hi Petr, that takes me back a bit!  Does look pretty cool

I couldn't find a link that wasn't plastered with on-line newspaper 
ads, but

New findings by the mission to Titan, reported on Wednesday by the 
European Space Agency (ESA), say Saturn's orange moon has hundreds 
of times more liquid hydrocarbons than all the known oil and natural 
gas reserves on Earth.


Google Saturn Moon Oil for more deets.   YeeHaw!  I think the space 
race is on.  And all we have to do is run a 1,200,000,000 km pipeline 
and we can all drive Hummers and have diesel powered air conditioners. 
 It's gonna be sweet.

Petr, you've never heard of VB? :-) QuickBASIC, under DOS, had an 
IDE back in 1985. PowerBASIC (used to be TurboBASIC from Borland) 
is still around and has inline asm and a killer compiler. GFA BASIC 
had matrix math built in, and TrueBASIC had some very cool libraries, 
like 3D graphing, as part of the system. After VB there have been 
a lot of "BASIC-like" lanugaguges, but some of them aren't really 
BASIC.

Saturn Moon Oil! :-D I can't help thinking, that it's all designed. 
;-) Someone put the carrot there for us, so we're now encouraged 
to take the next step up from our civilization cradle. (I hope, this 
comment is ok in this group, else: don't worry, be happy!)

There are hydrogen gas clouds out there that are larger than our 
Solar System.

Well then, I wonder if Sol feels small?  Will the Sun get spam from 
Pfizer offering up a little blue planet pill  so it can compete with 
Wolf 359 for dates with Proxima Centauri?    :)

So Blu-Ray won.   Toshiba just dropped it's HD-DVD business.   That 
means I should be able to pick up a player real cheap.  :)  Woohoo!

Why?  What can you do with it?

lots of cheap HD movies

Very  good and cheap for upconverting regular DVDs.

Google creates protability API for its apps - http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Google-Creates-Portability-API-for-Its-Apps/

I see that UNICON ( the language ) if yet to move to UNICODE in spite 
of its strong string handling and back-tracking features (co-routines, 
co-expressions)

There are remarkable similarities to REBOL ( ignoring its use of 
keywords such as &pos )
A recent variant is converge from Lawrence Tratt

Of course there is a big ISP named UNICON and someone has a DSL named 
UNICON

There is supposed to be a MAC version of ICON called PRO ICON ... 
I couldn't find it

My latest urban myth: that the name REBOL evolved from IDOL, the 
ICON pre-processor ( SNOBOL, ICON, IDOL, REBOL )

All good coders should know of Dr. Ralph and of "farberisms"  ;)

I was a big fan of Icon back before there was REBOL, but that goal-directed 
evaluation made Icon harder to debug than any other language in practical 
use, including assembler. That experience made it a lot easier to 
write PARSE code though :)

I came to REBOL from Icon also. Icon lacked communications abilities, 
and was not being developed.  It was great for working with strings, 
however.

Interesting

http://gizmodo.com/368651/new-video-of-bigdog-quadruped-robot-is-so-stunning-its-spooky

Looks like two Chinese dancers in black pants facing each other, 
running around with a big car-like box over their heads....which 
is cool!

Reichart, you like strange things, don't you? ;-)

: )

In a Swedish blog someone wrote a comment that the robot looked like 
two drunk guys carrying a sofa :P Then about half the people were 
worried that Iran/Iraq would copy it and put guns on it, and the 
other half were worried that USA would but guns on it. Either way 
it would probably only bring death, misery and oppression :)

it looks like they need to work on the engine. if you are at war 
in the desert, and you hear the noise of a chainsaw in the distance, 
time to bring out the guns.

Silent gun mounted versions are only a few years away.  Welcome to 
the start of the "new warrior"

I want an army of battle droids as first seen in STAR WARS Episode 
I. ;-)
Roger roger!

At least they could bore the enemy to death with the continuous "Roger 
roger", so noone would go to war anymore. :-)

Robots will be outlawed soon (yes, I said soon)... I give it less 
than 10 years.  I write it here for the record....
You will need permits to own or build them, etc...

In Italy you can buy a still for distill home-brew but only if you 
leave on the label which says that it is illegal to distill spirits 
with that still ( according to en.wikipedia on moonshine)

what's the definition of a robot?

I think he refers to autonomous machines, rather than just any machine 
that resembles a human or an animal :) http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/robot

Motorola loosers - http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/26/motorola-insider-tells-all-about-the-fall-of-a-technology-icon/