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[Tech News] Interesting technology

amacleod
2-Sep-2008
[3141]
Plug in seems to install but apps do not run...
Pekr
2-Sep-2008
[3142x3]
Maybe Google is fearing REBOL power, so they do abandon it :-))
Well, we can conclude - last year in R3 development brought us  - 
delays, delays, delays, modules shift, delays, dealys, delays, Unicode 
implementation, incomplete, delays, delays, delays, VID 3.4 shift 
... and ... nothing more ...
At Google, we have a saying: “launch early and iterate.” - maybe 
we have someone to learn from ...
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3145]
Seems faster than FF 3
amacleod
2-Sep-2008
[3146]
It is much faster than ie or ff3.
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3147]
Pekr, they qualify that by saying they release often to internal 
staff.
Pekr
2-Sep-2008
[3148x2]
Graham - we are internal staff :-)
as for web browser - is there anything to wonder about? It is simply 
webkit (khtml) rendering engine, with new implementation of JS, isn't 
it?
Henrik
2-Sep-2008
[3150]
webkit is generally much faster than Gecko.
Pekr
2-Sep-2008
[3151]
exactly, and so there is nothing to admire about new Google's effort 
... imo this is completly wrong marketing move. They go against the 
Mozilla foundation, who they sponsor ....
Henrik
2-Sep-2008
[3152x2]
Pekr, did you skip the part about the browser being highly multithreaded?
it treats a page more like a task, so if you have a page with a stuck 
javascript, you can close the page, like a task in your OS that has 
hanged.
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3154]
I have a page that normally slows down FF ... it doesn't with Chrome.
Pekr
2-Sep-2008
[3155]
browser is multithreaded because of webkip inability to work with 
threads, no?
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3156]
Now to make chrome the default browser ...
Dockimbel
2-Sep-2008
[3157]
Chrome looks more multi-process than multithreaded.
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3158]
where's the binary?
Dockimbel
2-Sep-2008
[3159]
%USER%\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3160]
why there?
Dockimbel
2-Sep-2008
[3161]
don't know, I just clicked run the install, I don't remember being 
asked for an install folder.
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3162x3]
Mine isn't there.
%USER%\appdata\local\google\chrome\chrome.exe
\chrome\application\chrome.exe
amacleod
2-Sep-2008
[3165]
I took a quick look for the binary and any associated files in programs...not 
there ofcourse. Strange.

I wanted to se if REBOL Plugin was saved in same folder. I see gears 
plugin in plugin but not rebol plugin
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3166x2]
setting chrome to be the default application for html didn't work. 
 Rebol still loads FF.
set default programs doesn't give me an opportunity to add chrome 
either.
shadwolf
2-Sep-2008
[3168x6]
sunanada the firefox version of the rebweb plug should run on chrome
hum it's fast even as fast as safari
google Chromettechnologie us the a process design and a new javascrip 
(V8) virtual machine with some cool features like powerfull object 
based garbage collection and  auto object creation (even if you don't 
say so your javascript is decompose into objects) each tab is a separate 
process each things that are needed to show a page is rendered simultanously. 
no asynchronous system so
as every page is a process well when you close a page  you recover 
the full used memory  no more waste in memory use
ho and is javascript fail to run that just have an impact on the 
javascript part of the webpage that doesn't crash the full webbrowser 
or hang the rendering process
on sites with lot of imgs content like hum ..... dailymotion you 
really see the difference
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3174x2]
Chrome seems incompatible with qtask!
I don't like the extra distance to go to switch tabs :(
Henrik
3-Sep-2008
[3176]
safari is not compatible with qtask either, so there's probably some 
relation there.
shadwolf
3-Sep-2008
[3177x2]
chrome is going to be this year award best navigator ever
I like the way the completion is handled
Henrik
3-Sep-2008
[3179x2]
it's better than FF3 for sure, but I miss the inquisitor plugin that 
Safari has
but the most important part is that IE will now get its ass kicked 
a little bit more. that is always nice. :-)
shadwolf
3-Sep-2008
[3181x2]
the way the memory is handled is verry neat
the more acurate way to manage memory I ever seen
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3183]
qtask identifies Chrome as Safari
Pekr
3-Sep-2008
[3184x2]
Henrik - that is imo incorrect analysis of situation .... I am not 
sure it will influence IE at all. IE is used mainly by those, who 
don't care about browsers at all. And as such, those ppl will NOT 
look at Chrome. If they would be interested in alternative browser, 
they would use FF or Opera already for quite some time. My take is 
- if Chrome is going to hurt somebody, then it is definitively FF, 
not that much Opera. And Google is sponsoring FF by some 70mil USD 
anually, by presetting Google as default search engine. If they stop, 
Mozilla foundation can get into trouble a bit ...
for me, it is "just another browser", nothing more. FF is already 
pretty good, established, with tonnes of extension. Those who claim 
FF being "slow", should first define what is slow in browser terms? 
FF is pretty fast..
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3186]
if a tab locks up in FF, it locks everything up
Pekr
3-Sep-2008
[3187]
And if Google tries to push their agenda via Chrome (e.g. off-line 
apps), those new era "quick hacks" should not be accepted, unless 
it is defined in terms of W3C standard ...
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3188]
we need more innovation in the browser
Pekr
3-Sep-2008
[3189]
Graham - it seems to me, that ppl sometimes construct their problems 
to prove somethings which actually is not happening. Did I got some 
crash with FF3? Yes, more than with FF2, especially with stupid quick-time 
format. But - did I got some tab locks? No, never ....
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3190]
I do frequently