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Henrik 2-Sep-2008 [3153] | it treats a page more like a task, so if you have a page with a stuck javascript, you can close the page, like a task in your OS that has hanged. |
Graham 2-Sep-2008 [3154] | I have a page that normally slows down FF ... it doesn't with Chrome. |
Pekr 2-Sep-2008 [3155] | browser is multithreaded because of webkip inability to work with threads, no? |
Graham 2-Sep-2008 [3156] | Now to make chrome the default browser ... |
Dockimbel 2-Sep-2008 [3157] | Chrome looks more multi-process than multithreaded. |
Graham 2-Sep-2008 [3158] | where's the binary? |
Dockimbel 2-Sep-2008 [3159] | %USER%\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe |
Graham 2-Sep-2008 [3160] | why there? |
Dockimbel 2-Sep-2008 [3161] | don't know, I just clicked run the install, I don't remember being asked for an install folder. |
Graham 2-Sep-2008 [3162x3] | Mine isn't there. |
%USER%\appdata\local\google\chrome\chrome.exe | |
\chrome\application\chrome.exe | |
amacleod 2-Sep-2008 [3165] | I took a quick look for the binary and any associated files in programs...not there ofcourse. Strange. I wanted to se if REBOL Plugin was saved in same folder. I see gears plugin in plugin but not rebol plugin |
Graham 2-Sep-2008 [3166x2] | setting chrome to be the default application for html didn't work. Rebol still loads FF. |
set default programs doesn't give me an opportunity to add chrome either. | |
shadwolf 2-Sep-2008 [3168x6] | sunanada the firefox version of the rebweb plug should run on chrome |
hum it's fast even as fast as safari | |
google Chromettechnologie us the a process design and a new javascrip (V8) virtual machine with some cool features like powerfull object based garbage collection and auto object creation (even if you don't say so your javascript is decompose into objects) each tab is a separate process each things that are needed to show a page is rendered simultanously. no asynchronous system so | |
as every page is a process well when you close a page you recover the full used memory no more waste in memory use | |
ho and is javascript fail to run that just have an impact on the javascript part of the webpage that doesn't crash the full webbrowser or hang the rendering process | |
on sites with lot of imgs content like hum ..... dailymotion you really see the difference | |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3174x2] | Chrome seems incompatible with qtask! |
I don't like the extra distance to go to switch tabs :( | |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3176] | safari is not compatible with qtask either, so there's probably some relation there. |
shadwolf 3-Sep-2008 [3177x2] | chrome is going to be this year award best navigator ever |
I like the way the completion is handled | |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3179x2] | it's better than FF3 for sure, but I miss the inquisitor plugin that Safari has |
but the most important part is that IE will now get its ass kicked a little bit more. that is always nice. :-) | |
shadwolf 3-Sep-2008 [3181x2] | the way the memory is handled is verry neat |
the more acurate way to manage memory I ever seen | |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3183] | qtask identifies Chrome as Safari |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3184x2] | Henrik - that is imo incorrect analysis of situation .... I am not sure it will influence IE at all. IE is used mainly by those, who don't care about browsers at all. And as such, those ppl will NOT look at Chrome. If they would be interested in alternative browser, they would use FF or Opera already for quite some time. My take is - if Chrome is going to hurt somebody, then it is definitively FF, not that much Opera. And Google is sponsoring FF by some 70mil USD anually, by presetting Google as default search engine. If they stop, Mozilla foundation can get into trouble a bit ... |
for me, it is "just another browser", nothing more. FF is already pretty good, established, with tonnes of extension. Those who claim FF being "slow", should first define what is slow in browser terms? FF is pretty fast.. | |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3186] | if a tab locks up in FF, it locks everything up |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3187] | And if Google tries to push their agenda via Chrome (e.g. off-line apps), those new era "quick hacks" should not be accepted, unless it is defined in terms of W3C standard ... |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3188] | we need more innovation in the browser |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3189] | Graham - it seems to me, that ppl sometimes construct their problems to prove somethings which actually is not happening. Did I got some crash with FF3? Yes, more than with FF2, especially with stupid quick-time format. But - did I got some tab locks? No, never .... |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3190] | I do frequently |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3191] | what is the innovation here? It is marketing trick - WebKit is not able to be properly threaded, so they might use separate task ... and they turn it into advantage on you - "your tabs will never lock" :-) |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3192] | since it is FOSS, perhaps someone can build a Rebol browser from it |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3193] | Pekr, perhaps so, about IE. But I still think it's important that we get some shakeups in browser competition. Acid3 brought Safari, Opera and FF together for an intense competition on who could support it first. IE wasn't even in the race and if IE8 turns out to be the disappointment I think it will be, it would get serious problems with future Web 2.0 stuff. I'm unable to test Chrome fully on this slow PC via remote desktop, but with many of Google's previous efforts (Google Desktop anyone?), it would occur to me that they can use Chrome as a common platform for their apps. It is of course far from the elegant solution that R3 will bring, but if they are going to keep at it with web 2.0 apps, one might want the best way to handle web 2.0. |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3194] | thats exactly what they want .. a platform to run their apps |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3195x2] | what is R3?:-) |
Graham - and that is exactly what I don't like - it makes me headaches :-) I am two week before I have to decide, which way to go - IBM WebSphere portal, or MS SharePoint portal :-) Guys want to go .NET way ... and now eventual third player to the game with own platform :-) | |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3197] | But there will be more people who will (unknowingly?) be using alternative browsers, namely Safari through Macs and the iPhone. Particularly iPhone will get a huge amount of marketshare growth, if the numbers are right. |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3198] | what does websphere/shareportal offer? |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3199x2] | try killing a chrome.exe task from the windows task manager. :-) |
I can see now that this would make Chrome very resilient to crashes. | |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3201] | Why? Chrome allows you to kill processes |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3202] | yeah, but it's still neat that you can do it directly from Windows |
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