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[Tech News] Interesting technology

Henrik
2-Sep-2008
[3153]
it treats a page more like a task, so if you have a page with a stuck 
javascript, you can close the page, like a task in your OS that has 
hanged.
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3154]
I have a page that normally slows down FF ... it doesn't with Chrome.
Pekr
2-Sep-2008
[3155]
browser is multithreaded because of webkip inability to work with 
threads, no?
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3156]
Now to make chrome the default browser ...
Dockimbel
2-Sep-2008
[3157]
Chrome looks more multi-process than multithreaded.
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3158]
where's the binary?
Dockimbel
2-Sep-2008
[3159]
%USER%\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3160]
why there?
Dockimbel
2-Sep-2008
[3161]
don't know, I just clicked run the install, I don't remember being 
asked for an install folder.
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3162x3]
Mine isn't there.
%USER%\appdata\local\google\chrome\chrome.exe
\chrome\application\chrome.exe
amacleod
2-Sep-2008
[3165]
I took a quick look for the binary and any associated files in programs...not 
there ofcourse. Strange.

I wanted to se if REBOL Plugin was saved in same folder. I see gears 
plugin in plugin but not rebol plugin
Graham
2-Sep-2008
[3166x2]
setting chrome to be the default application for html didn't work. 
 Rebol still loads FF.
set default programs doesn't give me an opportunity to add chrome 
either.
shadwolf
2-Sep-2008
[3168x6]
sunanada the firefox version of the rebweb plug should run on chrome
hum it's fast even as fast as safari
google Chromettechnologie us the a process design and a new javascrip 
(V8) virtual machine with some cool features like powerfull object 
based garbage collection and  auto object creation (even if you don't 
say so your javascript is decompose into objects) each tab is a separate 
process each things that are needed to show a page is rendered simultanously. 
no asynchronous system so
as every page is a process well when you close a page  you recover 
the full used memory  no more waste in memory use
ho and is javascript fail to run that just have an impact on the 
javascript part of the webpage that doesn't crash the full webbrowser 
or hang the rendering process
on sites with lot of imgs content like hum ..... dailymotion you 
really see the difference
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3174x2]
Chrome seems incompatible with qtask!
I don't like the extra distance to go to switch tabs :(
Henrik
3-Sep-2008
[3176]
safari is not compatible with qtask either, so there's probably some 
relation there.
shadwolf
3-Sep-2008
[3177x2]
chrome is going to be this year award best navigator ever
I like the way the completion is handled
Henrik
3-Sep-2008
[3179x2]
it's better than FF3 for sure, but I miss the inquisitor plugin that 
Safari has
but the most important part is that IE will now get its ass kicked 
a little bit more. that is always nice. :-)
shadwolf
3-Sep-2008
[3181x2]
the way the memory is handled is verry neat
the more acurate way to manage memory I ever seen
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3183]
qtask identifies Chrome as Safari
Pekr
3-Sep-2008
[3184x2]
Henrik - that is imo incorrect analysis of situation .... I am not 
sure it will influence IE at all. IE is used mainly by those, who 
don't care about browsers at all. And as such, those ppl will NOT 
look at Chrome. If they would be interested in alternative browser, 
they would use FF or Opera already for quite some time. My take is 
- if Chrome is going to hurt somebody, then it is definitively FF, 
not that much Opera. And Google is sponsoring FF by some 70mil USD 
anually, by presetting Google as default search engine. If they stop, 
Mozilla foundation can get into trouble a bit ...
for me, it is "just another browser", nothing more. FF is already 
pretty good, established, with tonnes of extension. Those who claim 
FF being "slow", should first define what is slow in browser terms? 
FF is pretty fast..
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3186]
if a tab locks up in FF, it locks everything up
Pekr
3-Sep-2008
[3187]
And if Google tries to push their agenda via Chrome (e.g. off-line 
apps), those new era "quick hacks" should not be accepted, unless 
it is defined in terms of W3C standard ...
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3188]
we need more innovation in the browser
Pekr
3-Sep-2008
[3189]
Graham - it seems to me, that ppl sometimes construct their problems 
to prove somethings which actually is not happening. Did I got some 
crash with FF3? Yes, more than with FF2, especially with stupid quick-time 
format. But - did I got some tab locks? No, never ....
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3190]
I do frequently
Pekr
3-Sep-2008
[3191]
what is the innovation here? It is marketing trick - WebKit is not 
able to be properly threaded, so they might use separate task ... 
and they turn it into advantage on you - "your tabs will never lock" 
:-)
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3192]
since it is FOSS, perhaps someone can build a Rebol browser from 
it
Henrik
3-Sep-2008
[3193]
Pekr, perhaps so, about IE. But I still think it's important that 
we get some shakeups in browser competition. Acid3 brought Safari, 
Opera and FF together for an intense competition on who could support 
it first. IE wasn't even in the race and if IE8 turns out to be the 
disappointment I think it will be, it would get serious problems 
with future Web 2.0 stuff.

I'm unable to test Chrome fully on this slow PC via remote desktop, 
but with many of Google's previous efforts (Google Desktop anyone?), 
it would occur to me that they can use Chrome as a common platform 
for their apps. It is of course far from the elegant solution that 
R3 will bring, but if they are going to keep at it with web 2.0 apps, 
one might want the best way to handle web 2.0.
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3194]
thats exactly what they want .. a platform to run their apps
Pekr
3-Sep-2008
[3195x2]
what is R3?:-)
Graham - and that is exactly what I don't like - it makes me headaches 
:-) I am two week before I have to decide, which way to go - IBM 
WebSphere portal, or MS SharePoint portal :-) Guys want to go .NET 
way ... and now eventual third player to the game with own platform 
:-)
Henrik
3-Sep-2008
[3197]
But there will be more people who will (unknowingly?) be using alternative 
browsers, namely Safari through Macs and the iPhone. Particularly 
iPhone will get a huge amount of marketshare growth, if the numbers 
are right.
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3198]
what does websphere/shareportal offer?
Henrik
3-Sep-2008
[3199x2]
try killing a chrome.exe task from the windows task manager. :-)
I can see now that this would make Chrome very resilient to crashes.
Graham
3-Sep-2008
[3201]
Why?  Chrome allows you to kill processes
Henrik
3-Sep-2008
[3202]
yeah, but it's still neat that you can do it directly from Windows