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Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3203] | Graham - portals? Have you seen Drupal, Joomla, etc.? First, we need WCMS (web content management system). They work the way, that you divide your portal site into zones (mostly columns), and you specify portlets to run in certain zones, along with z-ordering, and visibility based upon user rights, etc. Then you have workflow tools, DMS, and integration tools ... e.g. you can have portlet, which is static or dynamic html, bus as well e.g. stub (wrapper) for 3rd systems as SAP, etc. |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3204] | shift-ESC brings up the Chrome task manager - wonder if it's using part of the windows task manager. |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3205] | Graham, I didn't notice it until now. I used the Windows task manager before. |
shadwolf 3-Sep-2008 [3206x2] | pekr the same can be said about rebol why to do another language since you have java and Microsoft .NET |
anyone that knows a little the web knows htat IE is the worst to surf ... it's really slow really secureless and that's why 40 percent of the web user around teh world use FireFox or other webbrowsers. | |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3208] | I am not saying there should be limited amount of browsers available. I am just trying to think consequences it will bring to the table .... and FF might get hurt ... |
shadwolf 3-Sep-2008 [3209x2] | Pekr chrome is full open source .... OPEN WIDE SOURCE i will say and as google dev team says "Our purpose it to set a step stop on the next generation webbrowser. We have been inspired by the other and we wish chrome will inspire others (they are free to take absolutly what they want from it) |
Before google search engine exists the 2 leading search engine were Altavista and yahoo! altvista disapear and yahoo ! survived offering more services than just search engine | |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3211] | Shadwolf - and? FF is open source too - they could as well submit some ideas in there. That does not change the fact, that if they stop to sponsor Mozilla foundation in the future, FF might get hurt ... |
shadwolf 3-Sep-2008 [3212x2] | Pekr no because the goal behind chrome is not to do again another mozilla/netscape clone ... their goal is to say OK we are in 2008 web use is completly different than on 90's we have to propose another webbrowser design more efficient to the use of the actual web |
Pekr things rise things falls ... and that's so true that microsoft ensure a maximum market part by merging its webbrowser into its OS this way like it or not use it or not 100% of windows/vista based PC have it | |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3214] | I don't think it hurts FF at all. In fact the next version of FF will have a much faster javascript engine. The competition between these browsers is very healthy. |
shadwolf 3-Sep-2008 [3215x7] | that a way for microsft to say like dude keep fighting in the backstreets I'm hella no match for you I'm DA BOSS |
I like the guys that came with brand new idea or point of view and shoot the ant house to see all the ants running around ^^ | |
Since i have safari opera and firefox on my computer i can tell you the chrome is the most acurate it starts immediatly you don't have those 20 seconds of loading and loading a daily motion page takes you 1 seconde | |
I'm sorry but most of the past years effort have been made on the incrresse of the haward side bette ram better cpu better adsl modem better bandwidth but how about the damn software ? | |
FF or opera inherits most of their engines from the nestcape design elaborated on early 90s when the web was mostly some images and lot of text | |
i remember the first version of FF that was bugging all around flash player wasn't existing active X controlwas a mess plugin system was almost inexistant .At least we can say for a first shot chrome is really advanced so far i didn't get any problems using it | |
using crhome i feel like my computer is totaly new ^^ | |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3222x3] | Shadwolf - another experience, right? What are we talking about here? :-) Chrome rendering is based upon WebKit = khtml .... web content = standards. The try to provide some supporing features. You talk like Google finally will give us, what we need, whereas IE, Mozilla, Opera, are all crap :-) |
Shadwolf - FF is complete rewrite of Netscape - it inherits nothing ... maybe just ideas, plus plug-in architecture, which is accpeted by others players too, except MS from IE 5.x | |
Tabs at the top? What a usability nightmare :-( | |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3225] | why? It's actually tabs done right. |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3226] | it's not imo... maybe I am just used to FF, but when I look for the particular tab, I look close to the actual page top of the text ... not some distant top bar ... |
Graham 3-Sep-2008 [3227] | same objection |
Chris 3-Sep-2008 [3228] | Yep. Spoilt by Camino tabs. |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3229] | I'm not sure it's such a big deal. It eliminates the regular titlebar. I had no problems adapting to it. |
Chris 3-Sep-2008 [3230] | Also, I dislike angled tabs. Wonder how difficult it is to skin? |
shadwolf 3-Sep-2008 [3231x3] | that's estetical issue ... FF wasn't supporting tabs on its first version. |
FF memory management is awfull.... 150 Mo for 1 tab just because i saw in the same tab 3 videos ... | |
same page with chrome -> 32Mo with firefox 72Mo. SHAME you can trash it to the can and those lazy un imaginative developers too | |
Sunanda 3-Sep-2008 [3234] | Chrome doesn't have enough controls over content yet......Open half a dozen random windows from commercial sites, and you may have multiple Flash ads playing in them all....That'll eat up most of your cpu power just running adverts in the background. Firefox of course has the NoFlash and AdBlock addons. |
Pekr 3-Sep-2008 [3235] | other thing which denerves me a bit is - activity indicator - there is no stable bottom bar. And once your page is loading, there is message about it popping up and down at the bottom left .... |
shadwolf 3-Sep-2008 [3236x8] | i think you really should get your hand on a firefox1.0 and compare it with chrome 1.0 |
well at least you can track the resource taken by the page you are actually browsing wich is impossible in others webbrowser you just know that they eat all your memory without having a clue why the hell they does so | |
i Like the chrome top of the window ... I hate all those browsers where more than 30 percent of the screen is taken by bars ... | |
i like curbes tab that change from those boring rectangular tab | |
what i want is some keyboard short cuts for navigation like switching frotabs to tabs going next page/prevpage openning a new tab etc... | |
woops the shortcuts are implemented i just didn't look at them ... | |
chrome is perfect and yumy | |
ctrl+1 tab1 ctrl+2 tab2 etc ... | |
BrianH 3-Sep-2008 [3244x2] | I would prefer that Chrome use the system theme settings for the color of its title bar and tabs. I hate blue in my UI (here too). |
I won't be able to use this browser regularly until it supports something like NoScript, but there are some great ideas here. | |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3246x2] | Read the comic. It's highly explanatory. |
http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/ | |
BrianH 3-Sep-2008 [3248] | I have, and was surprised at how well they have taken advantage of the comic book communication style. I hope this kind of thing catches on. |
Henrik 3-Sep-2008 [3249] | Perhaps Carl should hire a sketchartist :-) |
Gregg 3-Sep-2008 [3250x3] | Chrome will have more traction with normal people. FF is still geek driven. In that regard, IE has more to worry about. FF has to worry if Chrome becomes better for geeks, e.g. dev, debug, extend. Both could benefit from its source and how they all decide to cooperate. If they decide to compete with Google, it will make a lot more work for them, and how they spin things will be important. |
The two things that FF does poorly for me are memory over time use and stability. | |
If Chrome is lighter on memory, stable, and secure, I'll be there in a heartbeat. | |
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