World: r3wp

Yes, there's even an "Install other OS" entry in the system menu 
on the PS3. That's how Linux is installed.

interesting

http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/osinstall.html

They may need a license from Sony to make a OS disc though. (ie. 
pay them)

one of the developers for OS 4.1 just got a PS3 so is in the process 
of port to the PS3

NO WAY! That would be so cool (#2 to Rebol running on the PS3, mind 
you).

Is OS4.1 runs on PS3, then REBOL will run ....

true but minus a lot of the newer stuff ie. agg/etc

The Syllable Server press release was also accepted at LWN (originally 
Linux Weekly News):

http://lwn.net/Articles/298583/

Adobe Talks Open Source, Innovation and the Future of Flash

http://www.eweek.com/index2.php?option=content&task=view&id=49706&pop=1&hide_ads=1&page=0&hide_js=1

removed the license restriction this year from the SWF format. So 
anyone can go create anything they want around that format, including 
a player if they want to

... this is old news, no? Besides that it is half-full cup. SWF is 
freed, Flash is not ...

It's said that the Flash Player will not be opensource and I understand 
why.

Interesting is, that Adobe is working with the Chrome team and that 
MS is not is not a competitor.

First privately developed space rocket has reached Earth orbit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To-XOPgaGsQ

Fantastic!

Nokia launches its own mobile toolkit platform, Linux plus Qt toolkit 
based:


http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080930-nokia-launches-linux-based-qt-extended-mobile-platform.html

http://trolltech.com/products/device-creation/qt-extended/qt-extended-4.4-release

Dial 'M' for Microsoft's new programming language - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/10/10/dial_m_for_microsoft/

The end of REBOL?

No, it sounds like we still have an opening. Those tools sound really 
complicated, overly so. Little cross-platform support too.

too -> either

That M language is like a lot of languages coming from the MS camp 
lately - they only have meaning if you are a MS shop. They even say 
that the compiler for this language would be cross platform, but 
that since it only describes stuff that MS platform software does, 
the results would have no meaning without that MS software. I guess 
they aren't ever going to go after the Mono project now - they have 
figured out how to compete in a multi-platform world, so they don't 
have to squash the competition anymore.

Strangely enough, it is not that dissimilar from REBOL's strategy.

yes, their tools are complex. I wish we would be faster in delivering 
though. We are still milles away from anything R3 usable ....

Let's switch groups.

OpenOffice 3.0 released ...

Been using OpenOffice on the EEE-PC, it is pretty cool...

Wasn't it a bit sluggish?

One Czech IT news server reports, that whole Wikipedia is moving 
to Ubuntu LTS Linux servers. They used various Red Hats, Fedoras, 
etc., so they are unifying it ...

We are talking 400 servers here ...

they're gonna wear out that poor Ubuntu installation CD :-)

OO3 is very cool. Trying to get rid of Word and XLS.

Is that really a big change? Using 2.4 here. I thought it is mostly 
incremental change. Pity they did not remove JAVA from it - it is 
reported still being kind of sluggish ...

btw - did not post http://www.openoffice.orglink here, as it seems 
being down ...

I guess they could use 400 Ubuntu servers too...

Petr, you can't remove Java from OpenOffice without rewriting Base 
from scratch (a good idea, but still). It is not Java that makes 
OpenOffice sluggish, it is the huge amount of C++ code. It's just 
too large.

Algorithmic changes could help in theory, but modern office apps 
just do a lot of work, and it takes them time to do so.

I felt OO2 was too bloated...A little SLow.

Reichart, the EEE is great, isn't it? My wife teaches, and she uses 
it for short presentations and writing reports during the breaks. 
I think it saves her an hour a day - she wouldn't have used a laptop 
any bigger (and this one is pink...lol). I always joke she is the 
most Linux-savvy user in the house!

Wasn't it a bit sluggish?
 Yes, but it is a tinny computer for $300 (the price of a PDA).


It works well enough for travel.  My wife is the one using it, but 
I played with it  a bit.


I live on a laptop that is a bit larger (not much though) The Fujitsu 
P8020, and is Almost 10x the price.

Microsoft releases Silverlight 2, so it is here, no more a beta ....

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/081013/aqm522b.html?.v=1

... now my question is - where is my R3, and where are our planned 
View kernel advancements? Cyphre did not touch View kernel for more 
than one year  ....

We launched Silverlight just over a year ago, and already one in 
four consumers worldwide has access to a computer with Silverlight 
already installed,
 - that is how fast competition is .....

Is Silverlight really our competition?

I thought we aimed higher than that.

To actually aim higher, we should have at least something in our 
hands. And we will not have anything useable for at least one another 
year ....

Carl should restate the strategy. Divide project to 3.0, 3.1 and 
3.2 goals! I would postpone tasks, modules, components for 3.1, and 
release 3.0 with new VID for immediate use with most apparent bugs 
being fixed ...

No, I wouldn't do anything like that. The REBOL browser is a whole 
different beast compared to something like Silverlight. I still disagree 
that there is a rush to get a product on the street. REBOL will find 
its niche.

Henrik - they use even better strategy. They don't try to introduce 
new mythical-save-the-world browser - they use existing ones to spread 
their platform. That is why, for me, REBOL browser plug-in is still 
very important product.