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[Tech News] Interesting technology

Graham
12-Jan-2009
[3529]
You'd think they would have a live demo chat ... Eliza style to test 
:)
Reichart
12-Jan-2009
[3530x2]
Don't know, they might, I asked Peter...
(Peter Voss, the creator).
AdrianS
12-Jan-2009
[3532]
the technology promises a lot - I wonder how much is hype
Reichart
12-Jan-2009
[3533x3]
Very little.  Peter is the real deal...
I'm going to be checking it out personally soon.  In fact they are 
waiting on me to sign the NDA...
Peter got back to me...they want to, but it takes a lot of time to 
teach the system (just like it takes time to teach a human to NOT 
MAKE MISTAKES).
They are going go with client testimonials first.

I suggested they build their own FAQ, and they might later.
Allen
12-Jan-2009
[3536x2]
At least if I hang up on a machine, I won't feel I'm being rude :-) 
Hopefully it speaks clearer than most of the indian call center operators. 
On the serious side I am looking forward to seeing where the tech 
will lead us.
I'd like to see it become ubiqitous enough that it can be used by 
all phone users to screen calls. basically flipping the model on 
its head
Reichart
12-Jan-2009
[3538]
Yup...that is their goal too!
AdrianS
12-Jan-2009
[3539]
so the learning time is "real time"?
Reichart
12-Jan-2009
[3540]
Is there any other way to teach something that works like a human?
AdrianS
12-Jan-2009
[3541x2]
well, "works like a human", but implemented on a computer
I would expect higher throughput
Reichart
12-Jan-2009
[3543x2]
It can only learn as fast as you can teach it.  It of course might 
be able to learn from multiple people, thus making it appear to learn 
faster...
Learn is not = to copy data.
It uses the context of data...
AdrianS
12-Jan-2009
[3545x5]
from briefly reading about the technology, it seems that the system 
should be able to learn on its own too
not sure what that means in the context of their first product
Reichart, you know Peter personally?
I have to say that if you're pretty convinced this is for real, it 
adds a lot of weight - I respect your thinking from lurking around 
AltME
hearing him speak on http://www.acceleratingfuture.com/people/Peter-Voss
makes me want to believe - certainly not the sales type
Reichart
12-Jan-2009
[3550x2]
Yes, I know Peter personally... Yes, I think it is real.

But, all that said, I have to see it for myself in its complete form.

He is NOT a sales type.
(I think I have a picture of Peter and myself in togas...which should 
not be held against him....  Everything is held against me...so I 
won't even defend myself).
Maxim
12-Jan-2009
[3552x2]
I do believe its possible, i know of two NLP engines which are able 
to "understand" text.


  one is able to tell you that you are not using the proper style for 
  your text!   like if an expression is not in the proper context.

  another is able to identify specific people within a corpus of data, 
  and differenciate people who even have the same (first or last) name. 
   This one will even understand if you are talking about the same 
  person by job title... obama and president are the same.
so I can see that if you remove part of the understanding (to allow 
to create its own categories of things) and instead build an associative 
system of context, it can become quite adept IMHO at making smart 
deductions.
Janko
12-Jan-2009
[3554]
no offense to anyone just my oppinion.. but I don't really like these 
words together: "expansion of human intelligence, longevity, and 
morality.. life extension"
Reichart
12-Jan-2009
[3555]
:)
btiffin
12-Jan-2009
[3556]
The 30th alpha build of the 3rd edition of REBOL was released to 
a larger team of developers and testers on 12-Jan-2009
Graham
12-Jan-2009
[3557x2]
are we a team?
Team REBOL ?
Kaj
12-Jan-2009
[3559]
Be there in a sec :-)
Graham
12-Jan-2009
[3560]
Ah... the old days of Team Amiga
Maxim
12-Jan-2009
[3561]
:-)
Chris
12-Jan-2009
[3562]
What is the collective noun for cats?
Kaj
12-Jan-2009
[3563]
They donīt do collectives :-)
btiffin
12-Jan-2009
[3564x2]
Clowder;   and Kaj, point a laser beam onto the pavement of an inner 
city parking lot near a dumpster   the clowder will form in short 
order.  :)
Less fun, more apro might be cluster or clutter ... I'd rather be 
in a clowder.
Chris
12-Jan-2009
[3566]
Hmm, what's the Reboller equivalent of a laser beam?
Reichart
13-Jan-2009
[3567x2]
I had this urge to be a smart ass and write "Lemmings..."

Kaj, yes they do...they are called a Pride, and they work together 
to take down prey.

I would say you a group fo REBOLLers is a "Force"
say to you
btiffin
13-Jan-2009
[3569]
The rebol equivalent of a laser beam?  REBOL?  or Carl?
Maxim
13-Jan-2009
[3570x2]
a devcon with carl in it?
carl  ==   Carl
Pekr
13-Jan-2009
[3572x2]
Mozilla Labs Ubiquity project - web mashups, dialected/keyword searches, 
information integration. Interesting (watch the video) - http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/ubiquity/
We need some higher level R3 VID3.4 layer, something like Amiga Arexx 
port commands concept, which you export for others to utilise your 
existing app :-)
Kaj
13-Jan-2009
[3574]
R/S
AdrianS
13-Jan-2009
[3575]
Reichart - could you please post to this group any additional info 
you get about AdaptiveAI? - I'm pretty hyped over the technology. 
Thanks
Reichart
13-Jan-2009
[3576]
Will do...
Steeve
13-Jan-2009
[3577]
In the Wiki, Carl added a link to the rebdev mobile client: http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rebdev-web.r
Rebolek
14-Jan-2009
[3578]
Youtube wants their users to use some different service: http://mashable.com/2009/01/14/youtube-mutes-videos/