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[Tech News] Interesting technology

Graham
6-Feb-2009
[3677]
I'm guessing he's in competition with Methuselah to see who can grow 
the longer beard.
Henrik
11-Feb-2009
[3678]
http://nettuts.com/videos/screencasts/how-ubiquity-will-change-the-way-you-browse-the-web/

From the mailing list. This is pretty interesting.
Izkata
11-Feb-2009
[3679]
One of my friends has used Ubiquity for a while now.  He definiely 
likes it - but it doesn't work well with Vimperator, so I can't really 
use it in Firefox.
Pekr
11-Feb-2009
[3680]
nothing special, but now every magazine will talk about it, and it 
will become the next big thing. That is how many things became popular 
in the past :-)
AdrianS
11-Feb-2009
[3681x3]
I've been using it for a while - I thought the same as you, Petr, 
but once you use it you can see that there is a bit more to it
the thing that maybe isn't clear when you first hear about it is 
how it can make use of the context of what you're browsing or what 
you've selected, in what you can write on the command line
they plan on making it work out of the browser too
Pekr
11-Feb-2009
[3684]
AdrianS: the thing is, that this news was posted to some of rebol 
worlds some few weeks ago, by me :-) I am well aware of what it means, 
or might mean. I know it is interesting, but it is also how things 
should be, for many many years. This is one of those small things, 
which can turn into something bigger. With a bit of luck though - 
sometimes media choose one thing, and make it become the next big 
thing. E.g. look like Ruby got popular because of Rails, a killer 
app. I wish R3 some killer app too :-)
yeksoon
11-Feb-2009
[3685]
For what it is worth, Palm CEO mentions that there's a few apps that 
he would like to be launched with Pre.

Epocrates, a medical app is one of them.

Source:

http://www.precentral.net/palm-ceo-ed-colligan-talks-pre-investors
btiffin
12-Feb-2009
[3686]
http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7242

Microsoft posts Help Wanted ad for Director of Open Source Strategy
btiffin
15-Feb-2009
[3687]
Debian 5.0, err I mean DEBIAN 5.0!   http://debian.orgWoohoo!
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[3688]
What's important?
btiffin
15-Feb-2009
[3689]
For us fans?  We get to apt-get out of Squeeze now instead of Lenny? 
 ;)  Too bad there was no Hawaii character in Toy Story; we could 
have had Hawaii 5.0

For technical bits; http://debian.org/News/2009/20090214
yeksoon
16-Feb-2009
[3690]
iPhone not welcome in LAS Vegas


http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/feb/16/card-counting-iphones-021609/
Reichart
17-Feb-2009
[3691]
http://www.wimp.com/videotrace/3D video tracing...
Graham
17-Feb-2009
[3692]
Windows 7 starter version will have a limit of 3 third party apps 
that can be run concurrrently ..... what is MS thinking???
BrianH
17-Feb-2009
[3693x2]
They are thinking that they are only selling this to people in third-world 
countries to give them an alternative to Linux.
You and I won't be able to buy starter, which we might think is worth 
the $3 they are charging, iirc.
Graham
17-Feb-2009
[3695]
I guess just rename each app and call it office.
BrianH
17-Feb-2009
[3696x2]
Or go with the multi-purpose single-exe multi-dll suite model for 
your third-party apps.
You need a cryptographic signiature to make it look like it's not 
third-party.
Henrik
17-Feb-2009
[3698x2]
I wonder if their previous strategy with doing 3 limited exes on 
Windows XP starter edition was really a success. I doubt it, though.
I think their idea of physical stores is more amusing. They really 
have to do that right, or it will fail big time.
Pekr
17-Feb-2009
[3700]
One of those two phones is going to be my phone choice later this 
year -

 http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/smartphones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=214303414&subSection=All+Stories
Graham
17-Feb-2009
[3701]
XP starter edition . never knew about that one!
Robert
18-Feb-2009
[3702]
XP: This is one example of an idea that's created on the whiteboard, 
everyone internal get thrilled about it, a lot of effort is spent 
etc. and that will completely fail in the market. Than everyone is 
totally shocked why this happend. 


Good example how miss-management results in bad products no one cares 
about.
Pekr
18-Feb-2009
[3703]
How new WebOS (Palm Pre) is going to work - http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2009/02/palm-pulls-back-the-curtain-on-webos-technical-details.ars#
Henrik
24-Feb-2009
[3704]
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/02/24/apple_releases_public_beta_of_safari_4_browser.html

New Safari beta with some eyepopping features.
Geomol
24-Feb-2009
[3705]
Dubbed 

Nitro," the engine in Safari 4 is said to run JavaScript 4.2 times 
faster than Safari 3."


4.2 times. That's a lot! I'm wondering, why they did it so bad at 
first?
Henrik
24-Feb-2009
[3706x2]
Safari 3's javascript engine is supposed to only be a bit slower 
than Chrome's V8, so I think it's only in extreme cases that it's 
faster.
wow, it's pretty slick. just installed it.
Geomol
24-Feb-2009
[3708]
Btw. that link make my Safari eat all CPU.
Henrik
24-Feb-2009
[3709]
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/safari4.png
Robert
24-Feb-2009
[3710]
Beware if you publish which sites you read...
Henrik
24-Feb-2009
[3711]
interestingly, the URL bar looks _exactly_ like one of my earlier 
skin attempts for the R3 GUI :-)
Gabriele
25-Feb-2009
[3712]
why they did it so bad at first?

 - they didn't, it's just that the WHOLE world has been up to optimizing 
 JS interpreters in the last two years.
Henrik
25-Feb-2009
[3713]
except Microsoft. It was more important for them to get Songsmith 
out on time.
Gabriele
25-Feb-2009
[3714]
well, the faster JS gets, and the easier creating web apps gets, 
the more MS loses "dominance". so it's obvious they don't want to 
help ;) but they have to keep IE from losing market share, so they 
can't do nothing either.
Henrik
25-Feb-2009
[3715]
and now this:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/24/microsoft_gazelle_browser/


The Gazelle technology would be slower than the current IE, holds 
an entire operating system for sandboxing. Could things possible 
be going in a more wrong direction for webbrowsing?
Gabriele
25-Feb-2009
[3716]
they should probably realize, that like IBM, their time is up. (but 
like IBM, they're going to be around and profitable. just give up 
the world domination thing.)
Henrik
25-Feb-2009
[3717]
If all goes well, they'll fizzle out and the world quietly moves 
on, i.e. back on track.
Geomol
25-Feb-2009
[3718]
One day people will realize, that it's a bad idea to build applications 
within a browser, and then all this browser war is over. :-) (And 
I at the same time have a feeling, there's a slight chance, I'm wrong, 
and everything will end up in browsers. I hope, it's not become that.)
Henrik
25-Feb-2009
[3719]
Geomol, without ReBrowser to lead the way, in 5 years we will be 
doing 10% better webapps, just by using 8 times more CPU. :-)
Geomol
25-Feb-2009
[3720]
or 40% worse, if we use MS technology. ;-)
Henrik
25-Feb-2009
[3721x2]
Gabriele, as painful as it is to us, the easiest way for MS to maintain 
dominance is to slowly move away from W3C even further than now. 
For IE8 and IE9 that could grow. That could get them back to their 
old dream of their own internet. As hard as I would want them to, 
I don't think they would crash and burn on that. Since it's unfair 
to compare IE to other browsers, we could risk MS creating their 
own terms now, while IE still has dominance.
So for an evil corp perspective, MS is doing the wrong thing. That's 
good for us. :-)
Robert
25-Feb-2009
[3723]
Geomol, I agree. And I think it will happen. The first company breaking 
out of the stupid "web-app" path, delivering a product that adds 
so much more value for customers that they use, gaining market momentum 
will win the game.
Pekr
25-Feb-2009
[3724]
Robert, Geomol - I am not sure you are right, even if I do understand 
your message. The thing is, that the browser is not just html interpreter. 
It is nowadays a container for native technologies. JS is a glue. 
So, if HTML 5 adds video, it is done in native level, hence there 
is no reason why it should be slow, etc. It is just that so far guys 
did not agree upon media formats.
Robert
25-Feb-2009
[3725]
I think they will never get all the different technologies playing 
together in such a smooth way. It's just to complex, hence to expensive. 
If you can provide a solution in 1/5 of time and budget, showing 
everyone it works as good or even better, youwill win.
Pekr
25-Feb-2009
[3726]
I think, that for the sake of the world, it is a bad news, that JS 
is getting better and better. Guys trying to claim web-apps can be 
real-time, are almost true. However - hopefully no matter how they 
try, JS (web) based app will be crappy stuff even for few years coming, 
no matter how fast they get it running, as the problem is overall 
complexity of the whole web aproach ...