World: r3wp

now if only IE8 would have put SVG within the browser ... like firefox.

we'd have a perfect world  ;-)

No, IE8 would also need HTML5 video too, with full DirectVideo support 
preferably :)

No perfect world would have Flash video sites exist.

PHP 5.3.0 released - "Some of the key new features include: namespaces, 
late static binding, closures, optional garbage collection for cyclic 
references, new extensions (like ext/phar, ext/intl and ext/fileinfo), 
over 140 bug fixes and much more."

http://php.net/releases/5_3_0.php

Hmm, they have added namespaces, but I am probably too dumb to understand 
their chaotic syntax :-) http://cz.php.net/manual/en/language.namespaces.rationale.php

It looks that PHP is more and more bloated. At least for most cases 
I used PHP I just needed a few conditions, includes and connection 
to database with a little bit image and email support. I really don't 
know why I should do "Personal Home Page" with closures, namespaces, 
etc..

You have to be aware that also many huge systems are written in Personal 
Home Page :) I agree about the bloat, there are many features I don't 
think it needs, I definately like that it got closures/anonymous 
functions.

They added a goto too -- not always a bad idea, but open to all sorts 
of abuse by poor coders:
http://www.php.net/goto

a double goto ??

just one quick glance at the list of functions for arrays, and I 
just want to run screaming back to REBOL :-)

:-)

brought the question towards arrays in R3 in rebol3 channel ....

PHP is trying to become java

yes, php from 4 or 5 on has got many java like features .. many are 
quite useless IMHO

death of kodachrome  ' :-/

http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/06/death-of-kodachrome-belies-the-technological-advance-it-represented.ars

Has anyone worked with http://www.freebase.com/which appears to 
be queryable online encyclpaedia

Yes, death of kodachrome is terrible. I've just ordered the last 
5 Kodachrome 64 films from the danish Kodak company. I hope, they 
get more before end of year, where it's finito. I plan to take a 
lot of time off to go and take photos with this film in the autumn. 
Next year I may end up selling my film camera and go with digital. 
Nah, probably not. ;-)

The theoretical patent problems of Mono are gone: http://port25.technet.com/archive/2009/07/06/the-ecma-c-and-cli-standards.aspx

After long years, two products are out of beta - Google Mail and 
VLC media player ...

FOG - new gfx library based upon AGG ... from the author of ASMJit/BlitJIT 
- http://twopixels.blogspot.com/2009/06/fog-graphics-library.html

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124702911173210237.html#mod=djemalertTECH
Google OS for netbooks

Google OS for netbooks

Amazon is hiring ... first round interviews are taking place on 2nd 
Life http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2009/07/amazon-second-life-job-fair.html

http://aws.amazon.com/startupchallenge/- 3rd annual contest

FOG looks nice, its multithreaded  :-)

I think that we have some tests to try with AGG, once we get back 
to GUI :-)

Max - have you heard about Fresco, node based GUI manager? http://www.fresco.org/architecture.html

it seems a cousin to the glass project, of which glob is already 
very effective, and is a node-based lazy engine for rebol, using 
AGG exclusively.

glob? Somethin new? Well, when we will see Glass runnable? I mean 
- some cute demo?

glob has been showcased 3 years ago in a graphics demo... Its also 
the basis for liquid-paint.r

GLASS will wait for R3, and plugins.   its a decision I took last 
year.  GLASS is also a completely new GUI concept.. its totally different 
in the way you relate to a gui.  


There are still a few technological aspects to the concept that I 
wasn't able to resolve in the architecture itself.  This engine should 
allow non Graphical interface to be applied to any application.

like a Voice driven interface to forms, for example.  but the application 
isn't even aware of this... this is part of the skin itself.

Silverlight 3 available, now with ability to create external/offline 
applications, accelerated GFX and more - http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/03/18/silverlight-3-whats-new-a-guide.aspx

Submitted my Amazon competition entry ... maybe I can win another 
$25 of credits again though I haven't used up the last $25 i got 
from them 2 years ago!

Fresco uses Corba, and there isn't a ReBOL implementation ... well, 
there wasn't when someone last asked on the list in 1999.

The IDL interface definition is independent of programming language, 
but maps to all of the popular programming languages via OMG standards: 
OMG has standardized mappings from IDL to C, C++, Java, COBOL, Smalltalk, 
Ada, Lisp, Python, and IDLscript.

Having a Rebol implementation of IIOP seems as though it would be 
very useful.

Using up to 1,000 high CPU large Amazon instances for space exploration 
http://aws.typepad.com/aws/2009/06/scaling-to-the-stars.html

In one of the groups btiffin asked me about net filtering in NZ. 
 It seems it is going to be used by most, if not all the ISPs, and 
is designed to block child porn.

ordinary porn is fine ....

Carl Sassenrath: 13th most influential person in programming!?

http://www.webdesigndev.com/programming/30-most-influential-people-in-programming

Fair

Matt Mullenweg with Wordpress is second? It's not too fair.. what 
it has to do with programming?

Yeah, I thought putting that one so high was rather strange as well...

The whole list is quite odd. In fact, I find it very odd that Carl 
is there.

Matt is probably here because the site is powered by Wordpress:)

It would be less odd if the list would be in alphabetical order. 
Else it's strange, that creator of PHP is after someone who just 
did application in PHP. But anyway.. it's nice that there are some 
people who recognize Carl.

It's their personal preferences

Google to buy On2 - it should theoretically resolve the situation 
around HTML5 video codec


 http://www.osnews.com/story/21950/Google_To_Buy_Video_Compression_Technology_Outfit_On2