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..............uh.............. so who exactly is this bike for...

Have any of you been OUTISDE and looked around?

http://www.thegiantnapkin.com/images/fatpeople walking.jpg

It's priced in Euros ... let me see ... where do they use Euros ?

Looks like they'll also be sellng in NZ too.  I wonder if my dog 
would mind if I used a NZ$7000 bike to '"walk" him ...

so it's the beginning of how people end up in Wall-E.

I guess on the one hand, it's a replacement for scooters - they look 
nimble and the fold-up feature is convenient (no parking!). As a 
cyclist, I appreciate the exercise, but sometimes miss the convenience 
of being lazy - I'd give it a try as a backup, but I think in the 
'States a scooter offers more range, versatility and presence...

This device will be never successful, and is even dangerous. Normally, 
when you drive, you have your hands in front of you, not behind of 
you. When there will be any road-block in front of you, you will 
reflectively put your hands in front of you, to cover your head, 
body, whatever. This is really only a jewelery, not a real bike ....

Having read the FAQ now,  this looks critical:
    <Currently the YikeBike can travel a distance of 9 - 10 Km.>
That's way too short to be of use to many people.

Making it really a urban city transport. How far can the Segway travel?

Did you notice the Green slogan? How does it gets its power? ;-)

I'm not so worried about travel distance for most electric vehicles. 
The cool thing is that it won't take much to replace the batteries 
with better ones eventually. The motor remains the same. With the 
development of graphene batteries, it sounds like we can increase 
battery life to at least twice as much, perhaps 4 times.

I am an urban city bicycle commuter.

I'd need a minimum range of 15Km a day.  And I'd want 30km for flexibility.

Also, I suspect the range is dependent on the weather [FAQ says <the 
YikeBike works best in mild climates>] so the actual range would 
be less than the quoted 9-10km for anyone outside of summer conditions. 
That's one of the issues that sunk the Sinclar C5.


Power ..... The FAQ implies it is powered from the electicity mains. 
Average cost EUR0.10 per recharge. Now, if you could set it up as 
a static bike and recharge it by pedalling....

So unless the electric power come from a windmill or similar, it's 
not really green.

What sunk the C5 was that they were invisible!  Too low in the road.

It's like the danish "Ellert":
http://www.ellert.info/


I see them a seldom time on the danish roads. They're not a big success.

They should concentrate on this:
http://www.moller.com/
;-)

http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2009/Sep/0039.html

Vista/Win 7 users should probably read this.

-> Humour ;-)

Well Win-7 is not yet there, so use-on-own-risk but Vista is there. 
That's really a cool one.

Haiku OS alpha 1 released. So when is R3 going to be ready for it? 
:-)

http://www.haiku-os.org/

runs pretty OK. seems similar to BeOS, but not much new.

ClarkConnect (some of us use it) renamed to ClearOS - http://www.clearfoundation.com/ClearOS-Overview/clearos-overview.html

Google releases Chrome 3.0 - http://www.osnews.com/story/22170/Google_Releases_Chrome_3

Funny, I have and have been using v3 and did not know...atleast I 
did not notice any big differences or know when it was updated..

you see, chrome's release channel system is EXACTLY what I explained 
R3's should be.  separate channels releasing versions independently.

ah, I thought that Max could support the model :-) But - some users 
do ask - what's really new? Google adding few tidbits and raising 
product main version number?

new "whole" versions are often changes deep inside the kernel and 
invisible on the surface.  they probably added support for things 
like html 5 and video, etc.

like FF 3.5

but I'm just speculating.

the iphone can now bragg about having bad applications  :-)

http://www.osnews.com/comments/22161

Google is doing the continuous improvement model, a good one if you 
can afford to autoupdate without prompting. We can't.

Maxim, they already do brag about having bad applications, except 
they call them "apps" for short :)

hahaha

but now you have a professional "sucky application" dev environment 
to make your job easy at it  ;-)

MonoTouch isn't bad - C# actually turned out to be better than Objective 
C for these kind of things.

That's why so many games for the iPhone are written in C#, on the 
other professional C# dev environment for iPhone: Unity3D.

(.net is bad)  I wonder how they prted .net to the iPhone.

Simple: They didn't. MonoTouch uses iPhone wrapper APIs instead of 
the CLR.

And .NET isn't that bad, depenjding on what you compare it to. Bad 
compared to REBOL - good compared to Java, Flash,  ...

aaaahhh a link just made itself in my head....  novell + mono  <> 
 MS 7 new collaborative mindset... yes...  mono IS .net as an open 
source and actually sanctified by MS as a gift .

so yes, we can actually run .net code on any platform... hell we 
could even import the .net framework and use it in R3 eventually.

(using mono).

And with extensions, we could even call .NET APIs on Windows, such 
as most of the new Vista/7 APIs.

BrainH: is recent Extension API enough to link to .NET, or would 
you welcome some other additions, as utypes, for such an interface?

a lot can already be done right now... probably the most complicated 
aspect is using some of the structs which many of the windows api 
funcs use.

and many functions use callbacks too.  some just to implement "I'm 
done" type async stuff.

so this means we can be as accomplished as vb.net ?

as long as we can map the entire .net spec (probably through mono), 
in theory yes.

Graham - no, not complicated. It is about what reboltutorial suggests 
- how can REBOL be successful, if it can't integrate to business 
systems? Scala is becoming popular. I would like to use REBOL at 
my work. So - how do I query Active Directory, to get me listing 
of users? Bzzz ... you can't easily do such stuff with REBOL. REBOL 
is cool, but a bit in an isolation.

Me too .. I'd like to use a lot of stuff that I simply can't

again, SWIG might be the solution here... this whole topic needs 
a lot of research.