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I think it can also help aging people, if the games are appropriate 
for them.

well, mental faculties reach a peak in one's early 20s ... so anytime 
after that would be appropriate.

The brain can be trained like a muscle. The more one uses the brain 
to solve all kinds of puzzles, eye-hand reflexes, etc. the better 
one become at using the brain overall, also in different situations. 
I think, games can help a lot in exercising the brain.

music is one of (if not the) best brain training things you can do. 
 it forces every part of the brain to work together and in sync. 
 senses, reasoning, coordination, memory, reflexes.  A study showed 
that adults only learn musical instruments a bit slower than children. 
 its the practice that's the good part.   

its also one of the best anti-stress things out there.

mental faculties reach a peak in one's early 20s

 - I've always wondered if that's true, or coincidental - that used 
 to be around the age people would have gotten used to their first 
 job after they're done with high school.  (Here in the US, at least) 
  Now there's college, which may push that age back a bit...

at twenty IIRC the number of neurons stops increasing, peaks and 
then starts to decrease slowly.

Doesn't matter, because you keep learning to use them better

It's indeed one of those FUD stories

About two months ago I stumbled upon Tonido  and the Tonido plug 
computer. I ordered a Tonido but then canceled the order because 
the application software supplied was not multi-user. I have recently 
ordered the Pogoplug which does appear to allow multiple users. Check 
it out.

You can find info on these devices at www.tonido.com or www.pogoplug.com. 
 I strongly believe that Rebol needs to be in this market. How difficult 
would it be to port Rebol to ARM running Linux? Wouldn't be nice 
to see Rebol Services running on these devices?

Better to ask Carl on R3 chat and or directly using feedback or submiting 
it as a wish on CC -> www.curecode.org/rebol3/

Hi Oldes, I did submit something via feedback a couple of weeks ago. 
My thought in posting here was in hope of drumming up more support 
from some of you Rebol gurus in recognizing the importance of being 
in this marketplace.

Ports will be the domain of the community when the host code is released 
(except for those REBOL inc. considers musts)...I would love to se 
R3 running on ARM as they are nice, lowend, cheap devices that rebol 
apps would fit well

RT will have to port the R3 kernel to ARM, but I think it is inevitable

I think you only need to campaign if you DON'T want R3 on ARM :-)

mental faculties reach a peak in one's early 20s

I don't think, that's true either. I can do many things better and 
faster now, than 20 years ago, when I was in my early 20ies. I can 
program a lot faster and with fewer errors now than back then. Now 
and then I try a computer game on my Amiga, that I haven't touched 
in 20 years. I can finish games now, I couldn't figure out back then. 
My reactions might be a bit slower now, even if I'm not really sure 
about that either. But I solve the puzzles better now. Many years 
of practise has also made me a better piano player now, than 20 years 
ago.


I don't know, where that saying come from, but I can't see it being 
true.

the two are not synomyous.

See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/4995546/Old-age-begins-at-27-as-mental-powers-start-to-decline-scientists-find.html

Clearly skills that require training improve with time eg. programming.

27 Is around the age that most people would have had most of their 
children throughout history, so it makes a lot of sense that evolutionary 
selection wouldn't have cared much after that

Eh?  I thought you wrote about that it was FUD

That you get dumber starting in your twenties, yes

But the start of the breakdown of the body in general around 20 is 
well known

Also, the deterioration of the brain is not the only that happens. 
It was found recently that neurons are not static after that age, 
but keep growing

I more often find it harder to find words now than 20 years ago. 
But I know more words today, so it's mayby logical. Languages never 
was my big thing, and my english really sucked, especially when I 
was a teen. I don't understand, what they mean by "mental faculties 
reach a peak in one's early 20s". Sure, if they measure on people, 
who don't exercise their brain after school-years, then they'll see 
that. It's the same, if they measure muscular abilities for someone, 
who used to do physical exercise and then became lazy.

My spelling was better when I was a kid, but I think the older you 
get, your brain gets filled with all sorts of junk, diminishing your 
capacity to see the right answer in simplistic matters like spelling, 
or perhaps you care less about it, because you realize how important 
or non-important it is to get right, saving brain power.

I'm a way better programmer now, more thanks to various thinking 
techniques, than to specific learning about algorithms. I'm better 
at leaving a problem alone when I know it will take days to solve, 
if I bruteforce it. "Wiser birds" and such.

I think if I went back to university and took the same courses again 
that I did back then (but have forgotten all about), I would do a 
lot better in them.

Today in my 30's, I feel my brain is developing a whole lot more 
than in my 20's. Even my short-term memory is improving.

Perosnally, I'm not convinced by these brain shrinking theories. 
I quote from Tony Buzan (The Mind Mapping Man) :


Recent research has shown that in a normal, healthy brain (that is, 
one in a healthy, aerobically fit body in which the brain is used 
well) there is no apparent loss of brain cells; only a growth in 
the interconnections, and therefore multiple intelligences of  that 
brain!


As the 20th Century ended, biologists at Princeton University came 
up witht the discovery ... that parts of the human brain can generate 
thousands of new brain cells, everyday


I can't find the original scientific reference - Google only guided 
me to http://biology.about.com/library/weekly/aa102199.htm

Yes, that's the recent stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP-0Nce5oTQ&eurl=http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_edit&feature=player_embedded


the recently deceased crunchpad ... a browser OS touch driven tablet.

Browser OS touch driven tablet .. now deceased due to internal faults.

http://www.techcrunch.com/

Sorry ... http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/30/crunchpad-end/


Still this does give us a glimpse on how we might use a browser OS 
...

Sad...I had hopes for this device

Same here - was planning on getting one.

Very sad, and more sad, this is the most common reality of technology 
(esp. hardware).

Could probably use my tablet like this :)

http://llvm.org/devmtg/2009-10/

Lots of new information from a developer meeting about LLVM.

So, FreeBSD and Cray are using LLVM too. It seems more and more interesting.

for me LLVM support for REBOL is usefull marketing.  even if cyphre's 
compiler is better.  :-)

http://www.grace.de/

Nice, but 6000Û is quite a lot.

Google Public DNS: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

Thanks, Ashley! Are there any concerns using Google public DNS?

Privacy, I guess

Yes, they admit that. The only protection is that Google promises 
not to do anything with it, but who knows.

Also: "Note, however, that because nameservers geolocate according 
to the resolver's IP address rather than the user's, Google Public 
DNS has the same limitations as other open DNS services: that is, 
the server to which a user is referred might be farther away than 
one to which a local DNS provider would have referred. This could 
cause a slower browsing experience for certain sites."

Well, I will try it for a while and see, how it goes. Thanks for 
explanations.

opendns is quite slow for us in the pacific ... wonder if this will 
be better.

8.8.8.8 .. Chinese lucky numbers :)

http://sanfrancisco.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/30/daily69.html

No more Crunchpad, or marketing ploy?