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Will 27-Dec-2010 [5453] | http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/wiki/Documentationlive streams from 3C27 |
Henrik 29-Dec-2010 [5454] | http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1934443/french-politicians-tax-tablets-running-windows French politicians want to tax tablets for not running Windows |
Oldes 29-Dec-2010 [5455] | Is this legal? |
Henrik 29-Dec-2010 [5456] | They can probably make it legal. |
Oldes 29-Dec-2010 [5457x2] | btw.. what does it meams "French politicians"? I don't believe that all of them. |
I think it is against the competition law. | |
Henrik 29-Dec-2010 [5459] | It takes 1-2 uninformed politicians to make headlines, so it may not be as bad as it seems, but it's seems the desire for categorizing and quantifying software through law making won't end any time soon. |
BrianH 29-Dec-2010 [5460] | I don't get why they exclude "computers" from the piracy tax. Most pirates use computers running Windows, same as most computer users. |
Steeve 29-Dec-2010 [5461] | Do not look for logical reason, they simply are politicians, who search for any pretext to increase taxes |
BrianH 29-Dec-2010 [5462] | Isn't this tax supposed to compensate musicians? |
Steeve 29-Dec-2010 [5463] | It is |
Henrik 29-Dec-2010 [5464] | On the surface, yes. Deeper down, most are not compensated. |
Steeve 29-Dec-2010 [5465x2] | But the stupidity lies in what they think is a computer is. - An engine which runs windows |
When it comes at stupidity, our politicians are not half way. French touch ! | |
BrianH 29-Dec-2010 [5467] | I really don't mind that tax in principle, but only if it works to compensate musicians, not beaurocrats. And includes the computers as well, or at least any device for which the MP3 patents have been paid. |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5468x3] | why don't they just tax everyone and you can get a tax rebate if you can prove you're deaf and blind ? |
face it, you're only got one pair of those sense organs, and it doesn't seem to be fair to be taxed twice if you own two mp3 players | |
Or, the french govt could use profiling ... and tax those who fit the profile | |
Steeve 29-Dec-2010 [5471] | The tax is related to the size of the memory storage. Every device with memory could be taxed, it's the idea. |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5472] | time for another revolution ... storm the bastille |
Steeve 29-Dec-2010 [5473] | Like Brian said, the tax principle is not the real problem. The problem is that the final cost becomes way too large for some devices. Tax added on already existing taxes. |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5474x4] | remove copyright on music .. and get musicians to get a grant from general taxation |
make them servants of the state :) | |
It's simply crazy to tax devices | |
In the past, everyone here had to pay for a TV license ... and we had these vans patrolling the streets trying to pick up unlicensed TV sets | |
Steeve 29-Dec-2010 [5478] | We still have it here |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5479x2] | Now the broadcasters get their fees from advertizing |
What?? still pay tv license fees? | |
Steeve 29-Dec-2010 [5481] | yeah and those who can receive TV via internet pay it as well |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5482x3] | No Freeview digital broadcasts ? |
What about satellites? | |
Well, you must live in a very repressive state!! | |
Steeve 29-Dec-2010 [5485] | We have public and private networks, We pay tax because of the public ones. |
Henrik 29-Dec-2010 [5486] | We have that here too and the fee is climbing every year and is the same amount for students and billionaires. The rule is that as soon as you have a device that can receive radio or TV signals (doesn't matter if you can actually watch TV or hear radio), you have to pay. Also our internet connections are taxed this way. If you have more than a 256 kbit connection, you have to pay. |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5487x5] | OMG |
How pitiful | |
out public networks were privatised | |
out = our | |
not a function of govt to run tv stations | |
Henrik 29-Dec-2010 [5492] | I'd rather that we had to pay this as an actual tax, so no money would be spent on controlling whether we had a TV, but it's done as a separate fee that you can elect not to pay, once you prove that you don't have a TV, radio, internet connection or access to any of that from your home. |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5493] | so cellphones are taxed for tv, radio and internet? |
Henrik 29-Dec-2010 [5494] | it's not a tax for internet access, but a tax for the ability to access webstreams of national TV. |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5495] | I suspect your countries have large bureaucracies |
Henrik 29-Dec-2010 [5496x2] | anyone are taxed, even businesses and also if you run an internet connection to a bikeshed for a webcam. |
Denmark has the world's largest bureaucracy with close to, around 30-40% of the working population being publicly employed (don't know the exact figure). | |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5498] | Why are your cartoonists drawing pictures of Mohammed when there's a lot more wrong with your own country!! |
Steeve 29-Dec-2010 [5499] | Honestly I prefer to live in countries like Denmark or France instead of USA or England. You feel the difference when you lost your employment or have a big decease. |
Henrik 29-Dec-2010 [5500] | Mohammed drawings is really a small problem. There are some things we like very much, like having free hospitals. What we don't like so much is that the public sector is growing in the wrong way. It's adding personnel for doing controls, paperwork, managing silly rules and making sure people uphold stupid laws, rather than increasing productivity. If it did, it would be OK. It's really about what we get for our tax money, and it's not enough. Our government is trying to control us into the ground. |
GrahamC 29-Dec-2010 [5501x2] | if 50% of the country works for the govt, of course it makes sense to increase that as it increases your vote |
what political party would be elected on a platform to reduce the size of govt when everyone works for the govt? | |
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