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my fear is that the "nuclear" aspect of this process, especially 
at this time, will cause alarmists who don't know the difference 
between fission and fusion to oppose it

Isn't there some radiation in all nuclear processes?

That's why they put lead around it and measure radiation doing presentations.

It seems there is some issue with the amount of led shielding required. 
Normally, much more would be required than is used in the tests.

yes, there is radiation, but not to a degree that a small amount 
of shielding can't be effective at stopping it

some peope had, rightly, questioned the process being nuclear since 
there was no significant gamma radiation during the demo. Rossi explained 
somewhere that getting a radiation signature would give away the 
secret of the catalyst, so he made sure to cover up as much as possible

and I suspect the fact that there are gamma spikes at the start end 
end of the process are clues as to how it works too  ;-)

a CRT has significant radiation, but it is allowed in the home

anyhow, compared to pretty much any other energy source, on the merits 
of overall negative impact, the relatively small amount of gamma 
radiation, which can be shielded, should not stop the process from 
being considered

But you'll hear the alarmists. :-)

wrt public acceptance isn't going to be hard.   the system instantly 
shuts off if you remove the input current, so that a simple fuse 
in the system makes it highly safe, in fact much safer than any conventional 
fossil fuel furnace in case of appliance failure..  


my own furnace had a back-fire explosion two months ago...  this 
litterally ripped off and blew the whole piping leading to the chimney 
right into the opposing wall.

I guess there is a question of home-brew, poorly shielded impementations 
that could get out of hand if the intent is to go for the biggest 
output

but I don't think it'll be possible to stop that once this is widespread 
- there will likely be accidents

the real danger IMHO will be in the handling of the nickel dust. 
 so I'd bet a normalized "consumer-safe" rod will likely be built 
at some point.

people will be doing this in their basement, though - just like people 
like to tinker with anything, they'll do so here, even if it's not 
safe

because as soon as you impose too many middlemen in the process, 
you're driving up the cost, so people will want to avoid paying anyone 
they don't absolutely need to

I'll just wait for a blueprint in popular mechanics, before I build 
mine  ;-)

your neighbour might not want to wait

do you know how far will the gamma rays travel in such an installation, 
assuming its in the basement?

maybe future homes will require shielding from the start

no clue, I suppose it comes down to how intense the reaction is

I can just see it... re-introduction of led paint  to make homes 
*safer*   ;-)

the power will really be, when we can print this with a reprap 3D 
printer :-)

or this one, pretty impressive home built printer. I'm guessing it 
has 600-1000- dpi resolution.

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2011/04/homebrew-liquid-resin-3d-printer-gets-resolution-boost.html

speaking of Popular Mechanics above, they had a pretty negative article 
when this process was announced

wow, that's nice output!

North America is convinced that anything related to "fusion" is fake 
or star-trek futuresque.  


the "Pons-Fleischman debacle", was such big news that they completely 
discredited this research in the public, so anything related to this 
field has been regarded as skeptic material ever since.   talking 
about functional cold fusion is almost on par with talking about 
UFOs.

current common sense in N-A would be:  "if its not fire or hot wires... 
its obviously dangerous or else its fake"

wrt printer, yeah, I REALLY hope he gets the plans out, I'll build 
one for sure.  my dad has a commercial machine shop with milling 
machine and all the rest.

I'd have sooo much fun with this stuff.  building toys and physics 
experiments with my kids.

it kills me to see the poisonous comments lots of skeptics make about 
the Rossi process without even having looked at the details. They're 
forgetting that with the knee-jerk disbelief they're essentially 
saying that the last 20 years of positive yet inconsistent results 
have been meaningless (quoting myself from some blog or other)

can't wait for the plans for the printer - did I already say wow? 
Wow

me too... the "shiny" parts really show how much resolution he has.

we could build our own legos  :-)

:-) Now, that would be fun!

maybe even pre-assembled when printing  ;-)

Toners!

you mean color?

yeah

He made a flute lately: http://3dhomemade.blogspot.com/

A house plus store just completely exploded here today in the Netherlands 
due to gas, so I guess Maxim is right that switching bombs would 
be acceptable

btw, the one thing I have not seen answered wrt the Rossi invention 
is if explosions are radio-actively "dirty".   

if its easy to make these systems, and then eplode on demand, (by 
a simple switch it on) it becomes a rather disturbing technology 
if the explosion itself leaves radio-active elements behind.

the radio-active isotopes produced are very short lived so basically 
when the reaction stops there is nothing radio-active left

And it's very little matter, that's involved in the fusion (if it 
work). I don't think, it'll be a big problem, unless the process 
can run uncontrolled somehow, like a fission meltdown. It's hard 
to judge, because the claimed process isn't very well understood 
(yet).

Yes, I gave "effective" price with tax.  Since I don't really care 
how it breaks down, I care about what comes out of my pocket!

Sounds reasonable, the rest is just bureaucracy.

just a note about the nickel consumption in the Rossi process - Max 
quoted 1kg/6 months for the demo reactor - the figure given by Rossi 
is closer to 100g/6 months for a 10 kW reactor. I've also seen that 
quoted as low as 65g

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