World: r3wp

Or we could set up an altme world for free.

It's probably just as much burden to install altme as it is to log 
in to a website.

We could write the code to reflect the altme chat to a website if 
necessary. It's accepting chat from the web as well which starts 
to make it a bit of a larger task.

it would be prettier if the AltME server could serve the site itself.

But I don't think we need a web gateway do we ?

how does rebol.net get its chat lists? is it a separate script that 
digs through the archives stored on one machine?

Mmm, it's available for Win32, MacOSX and Debian Linux, OpenBSD on 
the way.

I think so. I think Reichart set up a custom script just for Rebol3 
world, and hasn't generalised it into a release version of AltME 
yet.

perhaps that is the way QTask works? I haven't figured out QTask 
yet, but it seems to be messaging-agnostic, though webcentric.

It's not webcentric, as Reichart is at pains to explain so often. 
:)  but that's what we get to look at most of the time at the moment.

right

But back to the question: Is Win32, MacOSX and Debian Linux enough 
for now ? Are all current orca developers covered by those supported 
platforms ?

I'm not sure that debian linux is enough, even if it's a big part 
of them

But maybe it will be a couple of years before a developer comes along 
who is not covered by these platforms.

So it might be enough for now. I mean, it seems there's only about 
8 people taking an interest at the moment.

On the other hand, there are lots of open source java chat apps.

there is also plain IRC

Mmm. that's true. Maybe we should just use IRC ?

I take it that not all the developers are present here?

No, at least one isn't.

so it would be hard to lure him/her in here? :-)

Very hard.

interesting

We have a plain IRC channel ready in freenode. Join the Orca channel.

That is the simplest. I just need to get meme9 to provide logs for 
it. So people can get up to speed.

I rather spend time coding Orca than coding tools. IRC is fine for 
chatting.

are you Aquanaut?

Yes.

there is only one person there

I'll check out the IRC. We can't expand with a four person limit. 
That's crazy.

I think IRC is the way to go.

Yeah campfire cost money per users. I prefer no to have the expense.

I would like to steer orca back towards full compatibility (or close) 
to rebol (core 2.6.x  at least).  Currently orca has diverged somewhat. 
(It does have a compatibility flag, but I don't know how far ranging 
it is.)  Does anyone here have any objections to this course of action 
?

nope. Personally I'd prefer a straight Rebol clone probably with 
added bits.

I will fix some of the bugs though.

The closer we make it, the less documentation we have to write ! 
:)

For example,  the Ops in Orca have are more comprehensive and correct 
that the ones in R2.

Indeed.

do we clone the stupid parts as well? :-)

now now ;)

Lets swicth the conversation to IRC.

I'm looking for an IRC client now... what are you guys using ?

I use Colloquy in OSX

I'm going to try Bersirc.

What's the freenode server address I need ?

Ok I'm in.

Anton -if you are on Windows, then mirc is probably the best one 
...

Too late, I'm using Bersirc, which is open source.

ah, ok, I just wanted to suggest what is simply the best for all 
those years ... :-)

I went to wikipedia and it has an IRC comparison chart :)