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Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10396]
Even info?/type is incompatible. īdirectory for R2 and īdir for R3
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10397]
probably related to ports being different in R3. I'll make a ticket.
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10398]
The exists? check is insufficient, because it will return true if 
a regular file exists but the value is written in dir form with a 
trailing /
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10399x3]
exists? %/c/msdos.sys
== true

exists? %/c/msdos.sys/
== false
or is it R2? checking...
ah, yes. there is an issue in R2.
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10402]
The issue is in R3
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10403]
The above code was pasted from R3.
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10404x4]
exists? %dark
== true
exists? %dark/
== true
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10408]
does %dark exist? I don't get that result.
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10409x2]
Itīs a regular file
Are you on Windows?
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10411x2]
I've tried without a root dir now and I get the same result as I 
pasted above.
yes, XP
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10413]
This is WINE
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10414x2]
I could test in crossover if I had the diskspace...
I will investigate whether we want WINE related bugs in Curecode.
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10416]
Thereīs no other way to run on Linux
Graham
3-Feb-2009
[10417]
Wine is beta software still .... and AFAIK, the decimal bug is still 
present wrt R2.
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10418]
True, but Wine is not a very stable platform. It might be a Wine 
problem.
Graham
3-Feb-2009
[10419]
Though the Wine team has asked us to see if it is still present.
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10420x3]
Wine is past 1.0 since a year or so
But thatīs beside the point. The only offered way to run on non-Windows 
is on WINE
The root of all evil is pointing fingers at other IT suppliers
Graham
3-Feb-2009
[10423x2]
a little over dramatic ...
especially when wine has been known to be buggy.
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10425]
Kaj, there have been Wine related bugs with early R3 alphas before, 
which were then fixed. It's prudent to be cautious.
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10426]
You might as well not fix any bugs at all becuase Windows is not 
a very stable platform
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10427]
Kaj, isn't the point of Wine to make it behave like Windows?
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10428x2]
Note that Iīm not saying there should be no bugs; Iīm saying bugs 
should be fixed
Isnīt the point of REBOL to be usable?
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10430]
yes, when the underlying platform is stable. otherwise you can't 
work with that platform.
Graham
3-Feb-2009
[10431]
Ask Carl to produce a port to Wine ...
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10432]
Look, Iīm not interested in a philosophical discussion. We waited 
three years to test R3 and now weīre asked to report bugs ASAP. Whatīs 
the point of fighting it?
Graham
3-Feb-2009
[10433]
But what bugs are you reporting?  A bug with wine??
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10434]
A bug in running R3 on Linux
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10435x2]
The point is that previous experience with Wine shows it is not a 
stable platform to test on. That's why there is a discussion.
There's no Linux port of R3.
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10437]
As I said, previous experience shows Windows is not a stable platform. 
Whatīs the point of any software development at all?
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10438]
Kaj, you're missing the point completely. Do you blame id Software 
if Wine doesn't run Quake 4 properly?
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10439]
If itīs this difficult to report a bug, then I will refrain from 
it
Graham
3-Feb-2009
[10440]
Curecode is the appropriate channel to report bugs
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10441]
Stable platform = API stable = no change in underlying behavior. 
For Wine, it means it should behave identically to Windows. It seems 
not to be the case.
Graham
3-Feb-2009
[10442]
Henrik, what were the earlier wine issues that were fixed?
Pekr
3-Feb-2009
[10443]
Kaj - you are just angry, that is all. Gee, so ppl complain, that 
there is no thing to test, and once there is an ALPHA, we hear things 
like "Isn't the point of REBOL to be usable?". And I thought, that 
you are SW developer. Beucase as such, how can you post any such 
sentence to Alpha SW?
Henrik
3-Feb-2009
[10444]
Graham, an issue with 100% CPU usage every time a GUI was invoked.
Kaj
3-Feb-2009
[10445]
Yes, but Iīm not angry about the bugs, I just got angry about the 
reception