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Pekr
13-Feb-2009
[11181]
BrianH: I wonder when Carl gets to those "more interesting" topics, 
like tasks, rebin, plugins, etc. :-) So far I can see we mostly play 
with mezzanine stuff, although those additions are really cool to 
have :-)
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11182x2]
Well, I mostly play with mezzanine and library code and backports, 
then generate a *ton* of bugs and wishes in CureCode about fixes 
for or enhancements of natives. Because I tend to be public with 
my work, that's what you see. Carl is mostly working on the new DevBase 
right now (and possibly articles and interviews). Once the new DevBase 
is up and running the source will be posted to it, then we can all 
work on stuff.
Right now (this minute) I am backporting the R3 reflection functions 
to R2. The r2-forward collection is getting pretty extensive :)
Pekr
13-Feb-2009
[11184x2]
new DevBase?
You mean fileshare for RebDev?
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11186x2]
Add file management to RebDev and you have the new DevBase. "RebDev" 
was always a codeword - the real name is DevBase.
Or it will be when Carl finishes with the file stuff, and some stability 
fixes.
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11188]
cuurently guys, the command files are already here in the chat, (submit, 
accept, deny) but i haven't the rank to test it...
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11189]
Really? I thought that we just had the ranks, but the files weren't 
there yet.
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11190x3]
type ??
i tried them, but my rank is too low
you have to create a name first (command: name)
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11193]
My rank is high enough, but I don't think the commands work yet. 
There wasn't even a public decision on whether the file tree would 
be seperate or integrated with the message tree.
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11194]
i think it will be mixed, reading the source, i guess than a file 
can be attached to a an header or to a name msg
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11195]
Cool - that was my preference. I've been focusing on REBOL this week, 
not chat.
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11196]
i guess names msg are here to construct file trees
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11197]
Speaking of which, what do yo think of my /into option proposal?
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11198]
Nothing special, it's an new feature, so it's wellcome.
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11199]
I'll take that as neutral :)
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11200]
yep :)
Henrik
13-Feb-2009
[11201]
About FIND-ALL, would it not always return the result as indexes 
from the original block?
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11202x2]
The trick with FIND-ALL is that it doesn't reeturn anything - it 
executes a code block wioth each find.
FIND-ALL is like FORALL, but with FIND.
Henrik
13-Feb-2009
[11204]
Then I think the name is misleading. Or will there be a FIND/ALL?
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11205x2]
There may be, and it could be useful with /skip.
FORFIND perhaps?
Henrik
13-Feb-2009
[11207x3]
That could be, or as a step argument to FOR.
(who says step must be a constant?)
then again, how would one pass it. it seems that FOR already uses 
series! as step input.
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11210]
eh guys, if you continue like that, i guess you will rediscover parse
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11211]
This kind of function is usually easier to implement as a mezzanine.
Henrik
13-Feb-2009
[11212]
Steeve, I know. You can do everything with PARSE in only 10 times 
as much code as with a single mezz. :-)
Pekr
13-Feb-2009
[11213]
Parse - we first need all those handy enchancements being implemented 
:-)
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11214]
R2 backports of the R3 reflection functions are now done.
Pekr
13-Feb-2009
[11215]
So - are we heading towards new R2 release?
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11216x3]
That's REFLECT and its associated *-OF functions. Yes, gradually, 
as R3 gets fuurther along. The backports can be used with existing 
releases though - I'm bundling them all into %r2-forward.r.
I also backported CAUSE-ERROR, which triggers errors safely.
Also the proposed QUOTE and ACCUMULATE.
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11219x2]
quote ?
accumulate -> cumul (shorter name)
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11221x4]
QUOTE is a Peta special, a simple function to perform a nasty trick 
in as little code as possible. It blocks evalation :)

; R3 version
quote: func [
	"Returns the value passed to it without evaluation."
	:value [any-type!]
] [
	:value
]

; R2 version
quote: func [
	"Returns the value passed to it without evaluation."
	:value [any-type!]
] [
	get/any 'value
]
It's like the Scheme function of the same name.
evalation -> evaluation
CUMUL is not an English word (but let me check). I picked ACCUMULATE 
because it is the industry standard (for procedural langs).
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11225]
oh sorry it's french (i tried)
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11226x2]
We are not going the Perl 6 route :)
I'm checking a thesaurus.
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11228]
and ACCU ?
BrianH
13-Feb-2009
[11229]
GATHER perhaps?
Steeve
13-Feb-2009
[11230]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACCU