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Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11496x2]
Well, I change button colours all the time trying to direcct users 
on which path to take.
So I have a white "save" button .. but once they edit something, 
the button changes to green.
Henrik
15-Feb-2009
[11498]
that could easily be part of a style
BrianH
15-Feb-2009
[11499]
Ah, but those colors have meaning within your apps. Change the attribute 
for that meaning, then let the style pick the color.
Henrik
15-Feb-2009
[11500]
you could describe in your layout code that it's a SAVE-BUTTON style 
and nothing else. then in your style code, you add logic to change 
the color depending on the state of your user's need to save content.
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11501x2]
Graham, sort of like in browsers where links you have been to are 
a diff colour?
What about colour blind people?
Might be interesting to build a little check box into buttons you 
have already pressed and completed (or something).
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11503x2]
color blind males ... red/green ... life is tough for them
will we get sued for not providing addtional cues for color blind 
disabled individuals??
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11505]
I designed an interface like this for tasks.

Who What When Where would go dark once you did something on each 
tab (these were tab names).
Henrik
15-Feb-2009
[11506]
view [
	panel [
		...config-options...
	]
	close-button save-button
]


It could look like that in the layout. No need to worry about the 
logic. It already works in the style you wrote.
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11507x2]
People liked it, and I plan to bring it back.  We got rid of it for 
another reason, but I did like it.
I think if it is medical interfaces you might.
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11509]
the alternative is to hide the save-button until you need it.
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11510x2]
When I worked on airplane interfaces we did everything in BLACK and 
WHITE.
Or GHOST it.
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11512]
can't ghost in R2
Henrik
15-Feb-2009
[11513]
we will get sued, because people will be distracted by our pretty 
UI and spill hot coffee in their laps.
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11514x2]
In theory you can force people to walk a path, in the case of the 
task example I just gave, we can't do that, since you can click on 
anything.
But you can fake it.
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11516]
well, if  you're a Mcdonald user .. put a disclaimer in it!
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11517]
Make a button a shade of the BG colour, and do nothing.
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11518]
I also relabel buttons too on the lfy so that users can switch to 
using F keys instead of the mouse
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11519x2]
I'm very carefull of colour blind issues, have been on all my interfaces...simple 
trick in the old days was to view it on a B&W TV or device.

Now I have to take screen shots from time to time nad review with 
no saturation.
RED (which is bring to people ) is simply dark gray to others.
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11521]
Ideally we should have icons as well on buttons
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11522x3]
That was my point of the "check mark" a little icon.  Check out FamFamFam.com
These are free icons.
Very nicely done.
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11525]
using F keys helps ease the keyboard mouse transitioning thing
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11526x4]
yes.
I actually liked when Windows had "_" under the hot alt key.
Although what I would like is a key or button you press that "reveals" 
things about the UI.
Also, a way to view all buttons, and assign keys.  This should be 
system wide.
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11530]
Do the styled buttons have keyboard access to them like ^O, ^S etc?
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11531]
I lost the meaning of your question...
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11532x2]
button "Quit" #"^Q" in vid
are there default assignments in the styled buttons?
Henrik
15-Feb-2009
[11534x2]
Reichart, I will look into the checkmark button style.
Graham, yes.
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11536]
I think yes.
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11537x2]
And I guess you change them for whatever language you use ...
Anyway I hope R3G has robust keyboard handling .. for speed a mouse 
driven gui sucks
Henrik
15-Feb-2009
[11539]
I hope so too, but we haven't gotten to that part yet.
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11540]
alert "New Acronym in use"
Reichart
15-Feb-2009
[11541]
shortcuts, and language need to be unified and solved...
Graham
15-Feb-2009
[11542x3]
Javascript does a pretty decent job of creating GUIs ... I don't 
think one should be criticized for looking there for inspiration
regardless of its age.
The JS GUI is pretty much the de-facto standard GUI
BrianH
15-Feb-2009
[11545]
Yes, reserve your criticism for attempts to replicate its flaws.