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Henrik
20-Mar-2009
[12112]
It's nice that people completely forget the backend, the reason Carl 
built Devbase in the first place, and why he wouldn't look at other 
options. :-)
Maarten
20-Mar-2009
[12113]
LOL. See, now Devbase is  giving me amnesia as well! Let's just say 
it's not my "thing".
Pekr
20-Mar-2009
[12114x2]
We can go for any BBS anytime, it just officially will not be guaranteed 
by RT.
I was against new system, but I am satisfied with Carl's explanation 
of his POV. He needed streamlined channels for chat, bugs, CVS, filesharing. 
New system, in comparison to AltME, gives us:

- threaded discussions
- ranking
- tagging
- threaded discussions
- message/topic moving
- versioning system
- document management. Docs posted anywhere to any message.
- console version


So far, the big minus is - no GUI client. But - that might be over 
in few months ... So - if we think of RebDev as nothing more than 
RT's supporting infrastructure, I am OK with it. It is just that 
for fast dev related chat, e.g. nowadays GUI related, it can't reach 
Altme comfort and speed in not more than 20%. Threading is very confusing 
now ...
Ammon
20-Mar-2009
[12116]
According to Carl there's no correct way to do what I'm trying to 
do yet.  That just might explain why it was so difficult to find 
the correct way to do it...
Maxim
20-Mar-2009
[12117x2]
to bad liquid crashes R3.
are any of you having troubles with dynamically creating code and 
binding it as objects and stuff like that?  (In R3)
Henrik
20-Mar-2009
[12119]
specific examples?
Ammon
20-Mar-2009
[12120]
I'm updating DocBase GUI docs.


1. Changing the links at the bottom of each of the pages to point 
to a single template so that they are automically updated across 
all pages by changing one document.
2. Adding [[Category:GUI]] to each of them.

3. If I have time I'll start working on a VID2 to 3 document that 
describes what changed.  Things like face/parent-face is now parent-face? 
face.
[unknown: 5]
21-Mar-2009
[12121]
I just wanted to mention that when I run the gui demo and click the 
"text view" test it causes an error on my vista machine.
Ammon
21-Mar-2009
[12122x2]
Yup, Paul, that's a known bug.
Someone, BrianH I think, posted a link to this group (I think) to 
a document on DocBase that talks about the performance differences 
with some of the loop functions in R3.  I can't seem to find it though. 
 This is why MediaWiki bothers me.  It search sucks.
BrianH
21-Mar-2009
[12124]
I would like to see such a document as well. I know that the loop 
functions in R3 are faster since they are all native, but I don't 
know how much faster. Clearly if I was the one who posted it I forgot 
where it was too :(
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12125x2]
Paul, yes, this is due to one text area trying to load the source 
code for the original version of the demo, which doesn't exist anymore. 
However it throws a different bug than it should, so it's lucky that 
it came up.
Ammon, BrianH, it's search sucks: Which is why such a document should 
be a cookbook recipe. Easier to find.
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12127]
anyone has tested size-text on a gob ?
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12128]
is there a problem?
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12129]
i get  a wrong size/x
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12130]
example?
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12131]
wait a minute...
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12132x2]
I've not noticed anything yet, but there could be problems with certain 
fonts, multiple lines or shadows.
in fact there is a rich text bug that causes a size to be calculated 
incorrectly by a couple of pixels in a very specific condition.
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12134x4]
i get the bug with the standard font too.
try this:
gob: make gob! [offset: 50x50 text: ["test"]]
gob/size: size-text gob
view gob
here "test" is truncated
y is incorrect too, missing some pixels (tested with text: ["gggjj"]
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12138]
yes, I think that's a bug.
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12139x5]
another one bug, if the size of the gob is previously set to 0x0, 
size-text is entering in an eternal loop.
gob: make gob! [size: 0x0 text: ["test"]]
size-text gob
i wonder how th
i wonder how the VID can work currently
size-text is used by some styles
Actually, not.

In VID, Size-text is only used to change the y coordinate of a gob, 
which means the bug has never been traced.
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12144x2]
yes, I've not noticed the problem before. Now that I look at it, 
it seems to be constantly about 2 chars too narrow and a tad too 
short in height.
actually less than 2 chars.
[unknown: 5]
21-Mar-2009
[12146]
That  sounds like a very high priority bug to me.
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12147]
I agree
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12148]
probably something Cyphre needs to fix.
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12149]
Could you post the 2 bugs ?
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12150]
Yes, however I think they need to be more exact. It looks like it 
could be related to the old rich text bug I saw a long time ago.
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12151]
because of that i can't progress in my rich-text editor ;-)
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12152]
exact = test with different font sizes and string lengths to see 
if the error is constant.
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12153]
the error is constant, i tried several font and several para
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12154x3]
http://curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=345&cursor=3

The original report.
OTOH it may not be related.
ok, thanks. I'll write up the report.
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12157]
thanks
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12158]
btw. are there any margins to adjust? could it be that?
Steeve
21-Mar-2009
[12159x2]
i don't think so, the margin and origin are too low to explain the 
gap
i tried with a margin of 2x2 and an origin of 2x2, but what is missing 
is 30-50 pixels
Henrik
21-Mar-2009
[12161]
then the error is not constant. I experienced an error of about 2-4 
pixels here.