World: r3wp

I'm going to try Instruments, just out of curiosity.

I'm not expecting a usable R3 for another year or more.  I am really 
busy workting my project in R2, as i suspect are many others.

Maybe once we have a usuable GUI wrapped around dev chat it might 
be easier to follow what is going on ... but it's a bit of a black 
box to me now.

I had assumed that since the VID+ was being worked on, that core 
was in great shape ... oh well.

Henrik. I only get the seg fault if I use a lot of memory or try 
to use a scheme before running chat.

I get a crash immediately. Do you start it from terminal or Finder?

hmm. Instruments runs R3, but doesn't open a console, so it isn't 
interactive.

i will give it to you henrik

I start from terminal

Attaching Instruments to a running R3 works. But it shows no leaks 
when entering Chat.

PeterWood, wow that worked. I usually start it from Finder.

Don't get to excited you can still get segfaults.

hum i don't remember my password lol

that's what happends when you test something once and get borred 
by its usage

PeterWood, I get a different crash from what you had before now. 
"N" when you are guest, right after starting chat.

Try this:

chat
3415
more 3365

..when you are logged in,

Will test in a minute. I haven't found out how to return to Guest 
state again.

ok i just remember i recieve a mail with the damn password

that what u want ?

3365 ?

shadwolf:R3/OS-Targets/OSX>> more 3365

** Script error: submit-of? does not allow none! for its fid argument

** Where: case all submit-of? case what-file? more-file parse try 
either either
forever command-loop make context do catch applier do try chat
** Near: case [
    is-submit? msg [msg]
    is-name? msg [submit-of?...

--- Note: unexpected error logged to error-log.txt

is that good ?

It's the same error that I get. 

Now try the same command from the top level

>Top
>More 3365

more works but the  display buffer of my consol is to tiny to get 
the whole script

so i imagine get will do it ?

shadwolf: <ok so hash! is gone perfect no one used it anyway>

A quick search on REBOL.org shows 25 scripts using hash! and/or to-hash

That's not many. But it is not zero. And it is not perfect for those 
with applications that depend on those scripts.

Clearlt, retaining hash! is not a priority for RT, and that argument 
has been and gone.

It is not a decision I am happy with .... which indicates my priorities 
are not completely aligned with RT's. That puts me in the same position 
as most REBOL developers :-(

yes

http://shadwolf.free.fr/port-http.r

Henrik: yes to what?

yes to using "get" to get the file. it was shadwolf's question.

sunanda ... yeah 25 over how much in total + all the script not in

rebol.org ...

25 script is like nothing hash! exists since the very begining no 
one use it ...

I've been using hash! for a bit, but there are too few advantages 
for it to be directly useful. The main advantage is supposed to be 
speed, but usually when you need to do real work with a hash! you 
need to convert it to a block!, which slows the whole script down 
more than if you just used block! correctly from the beginning.

It's about 2% of one public corpus of REBOL scripts. That's indicative 
of the general usage of hash!

I mean rebol exists since 10 years now and having only 25 scripts 
using hash! just proove that's not used

shadwolf, it could be, because it's not well documented. I didn't 
learn of its existance until after a few years of REBOL usage.

Henrik it could be because it's not doing what ppl used to code their 
own hash table in C expects from a hash! table  any way it's GONE 
farewell :P

No, it proves it is used. It is seen in about 2% of REBOL scripts 
on REBOL.org.
If 2% = 0% then we can prove that  no one ever uses REBOL.

what you want a farewell party for hash! with champaign and etc.. 
?

but my understanding is that hash functions different than hashtables 
or dictionaries in other languages? and map will work that way.. 
or did you need the specific way how hash worked? If I used hash 
I used in as a hashtable (because I wasn't aware of the difference) 
and I could have gotten nasty errors because of it

earing from the few in teh God's secret map! is much better even 
if it's not fully done. I'm a morron so the only thing left to me 
is to believe them  ^^

I used hash! to build a long list of de-duplicated words. It was 
by far the fastest way in R2.


I was pleasantly surprised when I found that using map! and storing 
every associated value as #[none] was quicker in R3 than hash! in 
R2. It just seems wrong to be wasting all that memory storing all 
those unnecessary ones.

PeterWood, I get the crash you had just now.

I hope it will be that fast once all the bugs are fixed.

http://shadwolf.free.fr/port-http.r

ones -> nones

http://shadwolf.free.fr/port-http.r->> that's teh 3365 script

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