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BrianH 6-May-2009 [14016] | Basic math operations are polymorphic, but dispatch based on the type of the first argument. |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14017] | I didn't know about +/- to word change. Thanks. |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14018] | if vectors could work that way. Less the limit of 0-255 range Less the limit of no negative values in a tuple |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14019x2] | Henrik in fact there are small practical examples, say for loading AIFF file into a vector! array, see files area in R3-alpha world. |
They're for some older alpha though, I have to rewrite them. | |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14021] | Bolek, it's mentioned in a comment in the CureCode ticket which thought '- referred to unsigned (probably the motivation for the change). It's otherwise undocumented as of yet. |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14022] | Why not math? ...noone has suggested it yet. Not true also. |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14023] | vectors with scalar maths operations would allow super fast modifications in images. For example: gama corrections or quantization without the need to use loops |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14024] | If it's not in a CureCode ticket, the sggestion doesn't count. |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14025] | i know most of this tricks can be performes with the effect or draw dialect, but sometimes we need more accurate operations |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14026] | Steeve, the basic math operations generate new values, they don't modify in place. This cold cause a lot of memory overhead. Modifying operations might be better to do as functions, perhaps even native functions loaded in plugins. |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14027x2] | I must admit I haven't used CureCode for about 3 months I think. And my vector! document on R3-alpha precedes CureCore for about a year. Because no one but me payed attention to vectors for so long I never cared about rewritting those requests to CureCode. |
But it's nice to see some progress in this area, I'd like to experiment with vectors bit more and post some new tickets to CureCode :) | |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14029] | Most of the vector! bug tickets fixed in alpha 51 were migrated from the R3-Alpha tracker. |
Pekr 6-May-2009 [14030] | Steve - how could vector help to speed operations on images, if image is separate datatype? |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14031x2] | Yes, I know those bugs very well ;) |
I like how vector is molded now. No need for my vector-format function now. | |
Pekr 6-May-2009 [14033] | Steve - isn't convolution (where you set matrix too) enough for image manipulation type you mention? |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14034x2] | That's the point Pekr, If we can't convert vectors to binaries (and the reverse) it's useless |
image/rgb returns a binary serie | |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14036] | Bolek, there is one bug in how vectors are molded (#756), but otherwise it's nice :) |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14037] | Steeve I wrote some conversion functions for vector<->binary, if you've got access to R3-alpha, you can find it there. |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14038] | you mean the Altme world ? |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14039] | yes |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14040] | don't have |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14041] | Has anyone tried to-binary of a vector! in alpha 51 yet? Don't knock it until you've tried it. |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14042] | anyway, i'm asking for fast natives convertion functions here, not for mezzanines, if so, i can do them myself |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14043] | I've got error on to binary! vector. Also WHY? function tries to open non-existing page. |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14044] | Bolek, R3-alpha has been retired. Post the files elsewhere before the server for the world goes away. |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14045] | BrianH, yes it's the first thing i tried, it doesn't work |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14046] | Write it up :) |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14047x2] | Noone noticed that bug at first ? |
Pekr perhaps or Rebolek | |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14049x2] | Submitting bugs in Altme was much more fun than some web-based service... |
But OK :) | |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14051] | Vectors have been put on hold for a year, they didn't work at all. At first means since two nights ago. |
Steeve 6-May-2009 [14052] | i have a very slow connection currently, most of the time i'm disconnected -_-' |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14053] | It's not exactly true that they didn't worked at all. I was able to do drum and subtractive synthesis plus AIFF/WAV loader/saver with vectors. It was just NOT easy :) |
Sunanda 6-May-2009 [14054] | Brian --- R3-alpha is archived on REBOL.org, for world-members only (ie the same read rules as the AltME version itself). So good news -- we have a persisent archive of that world: no need for Rebolek to rush But bad news -- not many people can see it -- so any gems do need to be ported to more visible locations. |
Pekr 6-May-2009 [14055] | Having the ability to apply some math and matrix operations over vectors would be nice. Having the ability to use such functionality to modify some binary (e.g. image) would be cool too. |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14056] | Well, make it easy by submitting bug tickets, Bolek :) |
Pekr 6-May-2009 [14057] | Rebole - but there is no sound functionality in R3, no? So what was it good for? :-) |
Henrik 6-May-2009 [14058] | I can only emphasize the importance of submitting Curecode reports. Curecode is the only place Carl looks, and he personally thanked me for submitting the /SKIP reports, which are now all fixed. |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14059] | Yes, I will. I just miss the easiness of doing that from Altme, I'm not a big fan of web-services :) |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14060] | You keep forgetting the word "yet" in your sentences, Pekr :P |
Henrik 6-May-2009 [14061] | Curecode scales better than AltME's bug tracker and we can comment bugs. |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14062] | Pekr: for me, no sound in R3 is about as good as "sound" in R2... |
Henrik 6-May-2009 [14063] | Besides DocKimbel has already published API documentation for using Curecode through REBOL. |
Rebolek 6-May-2009 [14064] | So no difference here, really. |
BrianH 6-May-2009 [14065] | CureCode makes the job of reviewing and tracking bugs *much* easier. |
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