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Ladislav 2-Jun-2009 [14844x2] | can you check bug#879? |
Tomc needs it for a homework assignment, unknown due date. | |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14846x2] | Ok, where best to post the answer? |
I will post it in the bug report. | |
Ladislav 2-Jun-2009 [14848x4] | Do/next I defined my %build.r dialect with it |
...and later %spider.r dialect, %xyplot.r dialect, using %build.r | |
I am using %build.r instead of Compose as I advertised many times | |
BTW, BrianH is a co-author of it | |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14852] | Ladislav: random ticket updated with code |
BrianH 2-Jun-2009 [14853] | Carl, there are at least a half-dozen mezzanine/library function requests that are waiting for DO/next. Your continuation word idea is good though :) |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14854x2] | For compat, it could be different refinement name. |
The difference in overhead is large, but not sure how much it matters to anyone. | |
Ladislav 2-Jun-2009 [14856x2] | no prob with me even with the same name |
overhead: yes, I found a test showing really huge diff when not generating blocks every now and then | |
BrianH 2-Jun-2009 [14858x2] | It would matter to me. If DO/next were more efficient, I would not consider use of it to be a sign of a bad function :) |
I'm not that worried about compatibility here - see bug#666 :) It would be simple to search for, like copy/deep which is also improved in R3. | |
Ladislav 2-Jun-2009 [14860x2] | thanks, Carl. BTW, I am using www.rebol.org as a truly random source, since it is so easy in REBOL |
errata: www.random.org | |
Pekr 2-Jun-2009 [14862] | I just read bug #666. Cool number and cool ticket at once :-) |
BrianH 2-Jun-2009 [14863] | When I saw that number coming up, I had to do something appropriate there :) |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14864x2] | I just lost my connection to rebol.net -- quite odd -- as if a router along the way just stopped working. |
See R3 Chat #4403 regarding how to get new R3 to test DO/next. | |
Maxim 2-Jun-2009 [14866] | Carl, btw, something in liquid is causing a prior versio of R3 to crash. I'll try next week with the latest version, there might be some new tickets coming as part of the R3 conversion of liquid. |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14867] | BTW, I estimate DO/next overhead about 30% of full speed DO. |
Pekr 2-Jun-2009 [14868] | quite slow, no? |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14869x2] | Maxim: is it just the math part of Liquid or includes graphics? |
Pekr, no... that's very fast! | |
Pekr 2-Jun-2009 [14871] | There were no changes in gfx kernel for quite some time, no? Well, but maybe it could be related due to some other changes? |
Maxim 2-Jun-2009 [14872] | carl: just the dataflow part.... the graphics engine is obviously not compatible. |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14873] | In other words, it is running at 66% of full speed of REDUCE!! |
Maxim 2-Jun-2009 [14874] | its an object within an object, so I am thinking it has something to do with binding. |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14875x2] | Maxim: ah good, I look foward to seeing the problem. |
BTW, there is a bug in objects related to a copy loop if the object references itself (directly or via a block). | |
BrianH 2-Jun-2009 [14877] | Is that new? |
Maxim 2-Jun-2009 [14878] | I can't wait to convert liquid to a datatype, its going to be soooo much more sexy, and easy for everyone to "get". |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14879] | No, it's in the bug db, but under an odd ticket title. |
Maxim 2-Jun-2009 [14880] | the only thing is that the inner object (the shared class) gets a reference to the outer object (the instance) as its first parameter, just like the R2 face/feel |
Pekr 2-Jun-2009 [14881] | Maxim - so you are the second one to BrianH waiting for user-types :-) |
Maxim 2-Jun-2009 [14882x2] | I've been waiting for user types since core beta ;-) |
thats core v1 :-) | |
BrianH 2-Jun-2009 [14884] | I'm OK with coming in second here, as long as user-defined types can include function types :) |
Pekr 2-Jun-2009 [14885x2] | Carl - maybe we could just rename May plan to the June one? It came late and imo if you were supposed to write new one, it would not be much different, or would it? |
Maxim - you are so long here remembering R1? :-) | |
Carl 2-Jun-2009 [14887] | reduci: func ["Example of reduce using DO/next" blk] [ out: make block! 3 forskip blk 0 [append/only out do/next blk 'blk] out ] |
BrianH 2-Jun-2009 [14888x2] | Please, a new June plan that also recaps the May accomplishments :) |
Maxim, I haven't been here that long - just got here for the release of R2, though I did use R1 for one project. | |
Maxim 2-Jun-2009 [14890] | I remember eagerly waiting for view :-) |
BrianH 2-Jun-2009 [14891] | The View alpha/beta list was fun :) |
Pekr 2-Jun-2009 [14892x2] | It was called Ally, and I still have it archived :-) |
Sterling Newton, Jeff Kreis, Holger Kruse, Jim Goodnow - RT was big company back then :-) | |
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