World: r3wp

but its revealing something deeper... DO is now totally useless.

cause it can't interact with the context its being called from.

well, in the module's perspective anyways.

(totally is a strong word... hehe)

Not totally. It is useful in non-module scripts, and useful for scripts 
done for effect rather than for loading functions.

ok let me do a single little test...

Also, the IMPORT function is basically a fancy DO.

oops noticed that I mismatched the bug number in the code examples 
of bug#928... I'll edit them.

just like slim's LOAD is a fancy DO   ;-)

that would be slim's 'OPEN... starting to be late... hehe

Of the module bugs you have posted, the one that is still pretty 
nasty is bug#923. Needs tracing :(

Good night, be back tomorrow if I can.

ok... here is a twist on bug 928... :-)

if I add 

myfunc: none 


at the top of the module in the supplied example I get this error 
instead:

Evaluating: /D/dev/project/liquid-r3/debug/mymodule-bug924.r
** Script error: print word is not bound to a context
** Where: catch if either either do begin do
** Near: catch/quit code

>>

this one I can't see how it can be proper, even if you can explain 
it.

note... 'PRINT is not bound to any context  !!! wtf?

In which of the 3 files do you put the myfunc: none ?

rebol [
	type: 'module
	name: 'mymodule-bug928
]

print "TADAM ... mymodule-bug928"
myfunc: none
do %myscript.r
myfunc 928

print is global it should accessible from any DO.

Again, I'll be back tomorrow if I can.

sure... better build a convicing argument cause the above is not 
acceptible  ;-)

heheh  good night.

I'm going back to comfortable R2 development now...

It's a different bug than the one reported in bug#928. Good night.

ciao

Apples idea how to do real concurrency (on multicore) .. http://images.apple.com/macosx/technology/docs/GrandCentral_TB_brief_20090608.pdf
-- it seems to be based on something like closures (or blocks from 
smalltalk)  -- it seems simple and clean idea

I posted it here as a food for thought on one of REBOL3 next developments.. 
making it concurrent

Janko: did you post it to the R3 chat too?  - may be better for Carl 
than this place

(I reposted it)

thanks .. I am not on R3 chat. I don't use R3 and R2 has enough secrets 
to discover for me still

So called Erlang style concurrency - brief info - http://ulf.wiger.net/weblog/2008/02/06/what-is-erlang-style-concurrency/

as said before, rebol with erlang like concurrency is a 
dooropener for many professional projects. btw mnesia,
the distributed hybrid database is very nice too.

Here is a great example code using GrandCentral: "DispatchWebServer"

from the description: "A web server that uses one queue per HTTP 
connection. Supports HTTP pipelining and on-the-fly compression. 
Also shows use of dispatch-style signal and vnode event handling."

https://developer.apple.com/snowleopard/library/samplecode/DispatchWebServer/index.html
(ADC account needed)
Whoever is doing R3 on OS X, should have a look 8-)

Any good reason why
    true?
is defined, but not
    false?

Because we already had that function: NOT. It is left to the user 
to declare false?: :not if they wish. That was the rationale at least.

why such an ommision? if we have true?, then we surely have to have 
false? ... it almost feels like a design bug to not have one ..

It might be added later, like empty?: :tail?, but so far we have 
been focusing on missing functionality. Things like that will likely 
be added later on when we are finishing up.

So, now I am happy owner of HTC Touch Pro 2 ... now I need my first 
R3 build for it :-) http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/overview.html

Will .. that would be really interesting to look at as GC looks very 
interesting and minimal in concepts.. to bad I am not in ADC :(

Pekr, I have had the HTC touch for a year and a half...been a little 
disappointed. I hope the newer versions are a bit better but I'm 
not sure if its the hardware or windows mobile that most disappoints...
HAve you seen teh new palm pre? It looks interesting!

If r3 was up and running on htc touch I think I would overlook alot 
of my issues with it...

no, not yet, and I have no plan to support proprietary "OS" as PalmPre 
is. It allows some kind of web like development. OTOH I haven't studies 
it properly yet. I am quite disappointed by Android - it is a let-down 
for me, at least for what I saw on HTC devices - just hyped because 
of Google, nothing special ...

What were your issues? It is clearly not as smooth as iPhone is in 
operation. This is mostly because of capacitative vs resistive touch 
screen. I needed few days to make ma touch navigation more solid. 
Overall it feels more sluggish. But TouchFlo3D version 2 is quite 
snappier and I would not probably buy any Windows Mobile without 
that add-on.

... and yes, it might be the problem of Windows, because how is that 
iPhone has relatively slower HW, yet feels speedier?

A lot of that is UI design.

speaking of which... iPhone OS 3.0 was just released.

'round being now a native. This should be welcome by those doing 
looped math operation.

10 times faster, more accurate, less exceptions

Yay! I haven't been able to review the ROUND and RANDOM tickets since 
the functions were being rewritten - this should help.

After reviewing the current state of the R3 module system, here is 
the state of what is implemented so far:
- Dependencies
- Encapsulation
- Explicit exports to the system exports
- Implicit import of the system exports

And here is what is not implemented so far:

- Explicit imports, even just limiting imported words to those in 
the dependencies

- Distinguishing exports for explicit import from the system exports
- Access controls for the system exports


It will not be possible to implement what is not currently implemented 
until the mezzanines and natives are put into modules. However, what 
is implemented so far is enough to start the process of putting the 
system code into modules. Further work on the module system (except 
bug fixes) and any preprocessor will have to wait until the system 
code modularization is done.

Regarding MATH stuff.I alway need functions to convert from scientific 
to human readable form including thousand seperators, using "," instead 
of "." etc. How about adding this to the CORE? IMO a very high frequent 
function.