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[!REBOL3-OLD1]

Pekr
15-Aug-2009
[16758]
echo? who want to work with file? Theat is weird. I want call being 
fixed, or it is good for nothing ...
Henrik
15-Aug-2009
[16759]
I thought you wanted debug output. Otherwise wait until CALL is fixed.
Paul
15-Aug-2009
[16760x3]
Pekr, what are yhou trying to do?
Sounds like Pekr is trying to capture the output of a directory listing 
in R3, is that correct?
anyway Pekr, just use:

call "cmd dir > somefile.txt"

then you can just read the file back into a string.
Pekr
15-Aug-2009
[16763x2]
Paul - correct ....
Paul - I know that is an option ... but what is it good then to get 
'call output into console, if it can't be even easily captured into 
a string?
Paul
15-Aug-2009
[16765]
Isn't that a limitation of R3?
Pekr
15-Aug-2009
[16766]
dunno. As an interim solution, you suggestion is good enough .... 
I'll wait for 'call being fixed/enhanced ...
Paul
15-Aug-2009
[16767]
Yeah, we will have to wait and see if they develop 'call further.
BrianH
15-Aug-2009
[16768]
CALL is in the host code. We'll fix it when the host code is released.
Nicolas
16-Aug-2009
[16769]
Can anyone tell me how to view an image with r3?
Steeve
16-Aug-2009
[16770]
Is it me, or the example to read a dns address is broken ???
>> print read dns://www.rebol.net
Nicolas
16-Aug-2009
[16771x2]
I get
make port! [
    spec: make object! [
        title: "DNS Lookup"
        scheme: 'dns
        ref: dns://www.rebol.net
        path: none
        host: "www.rebol.net"
        port-id: 80
    ]
    scheme: make object! [
        name: 'dns
        title: "DNS Lookup"
        spec: make object! [
            title: none
            scheme: none
            ref: none
            path: none
            host: none
            port-id: 80
        ]
        info: none
        actor: make native! [[]]
        awake: make function! [[event][print event/type true]]
    ]
    actor: make native! [[]]
    awake: make function! [[event][print event/type true]]
    state: #{}
    data: none
    locals: none
]
Steeve
16-Aug-2009
[16773]
Geez...

>> first wait read dns://www.rebol.net
read
== 216.240.11.203

>> first wait read dns://216.240.11.203
read
== "www.rebol.net"

A little bit obfuscated, but it works...
Henrik
16-Aug-2009
[16774]
Nicolas, VIEW in its built in state doesn't work properly, so do 
something like this:

>> load-gui
>> a: load http://arkandis.com/images/blog/google.gif
>> b: make gob! [image: a]
>> view b
Nicolas
16-Aug-2009
[16775]
thanks Henrik
Henrik
16-Aug-2009
[16776]
(This will be much easier in the future, I hope)
Paul
16-Aug-2009
[16777]
I see Carl is going to add Read/Text functionality with UTF conversion. 
 That is going to be sweet.  That alone should begin to make REBOL3 
useful.
Sunanda
16-Aug-2009
[16778]
What is the point of /any on dir?

As far as I can see, as soon as you add a wildcard char, dir?/any 
always returns true

    dir?/any %ddddff.file
    == false                              ;; no wild ==> false
    dir?/any %ddd?dff.file
    == true                                ;; wild ==> true
    dir?/any %ddd*dff.file
    == true                               ;; wild ==> true

    dir?/any http://www.test.com/file.html
    == false                             ;; no wild ==> false
    dir?/any http://www.test.com/*.html
    == true                              ;; wild: true
Henrik
16-Aug-2009
[16779x2]
looks like a bug
definitely a bug. please add it to curecode, thanks.
BrianH
16-Aug-2009
[16781x2]
It's already there - add your code as a comment on the existing DIR? 
/any ticket.
The ticket in question is #649.
Sunanda
17-Aug-2009
[16783]
Thanks -- had not seen that ticket.
Pekr
18-Aug-2009
[16784]
I proposed change of command! to external! extern! or something like 
that. We will see, if Carl reacts to that ....
BrianH
18-Aug-2009
[16785]
The word "command" is more specific, and better expresses what you 
are referring to.
Pekr
18-Aug-2009
[16786]
I have heard at least one other opinion, that name "command" might 
be too worthy to waste on simple and signle thing as wrapping merely 
a funciton call. Of course even Devices have commands, but those 
are not probably rebol level related and influence nothing ...
BrianH
18-Aug-2009
[16787x2]
You mentioned that "command" would need to be reserved for devices. 
There's no reason that devices couldn't use the existing command! 
type. It's very flexible.
Carl said that devices would be a variant on extensions.
Pekr
18-Aug-2009
[16789x2]
No, I said, that device commands probably don't influence rebol level 
code, so that we are eventually free to rename extension command 
to extension! term. That was just a thought, in case we would have 
some better usage for 'command term later. Nothing really important 
imo. Extension commands are not much advanced - they are just descriptor 
for particular meaning.
When I think "command", I think - dialect ...
BrianH
18-Aug-2009
[16791]
Sorry, I wrote that in relation to what you had said on the blog, 
not here.
Pekr
18-Aug-2009
[16792]
and to just describe meaning of wrapping a call, I though external!, 
extern!, ext!, wrap! could be used instead. Probably too late to 
try to convince anyone :-)
BrianH
18-Aug-2009
[16793]
Those are all modifier words. We need a noun.
Pekr
18-Aug-2009
[16794x2]
more interesting stuff on Chat :-) I expressed opinion, that we use 
assymetry for read and write with strings, Carl objected. His second 
post might be interesting for you, as he for few moments thought, 
where is the right place for such stuff. I think that you would enjoy 
putting your opinion there. Of course - my post was done just to 
provoke some discussion :-)
btw - "external", english-wise, can't be thought as a noun?
BrianH
18-Aug-2009
[16796]
I just read it, and was about to reply to your counter-post, just 
to one point.
External

 is an adjective. When used as a noun, its subject is implied. Bad 
 form.
Pekr
18-Aug-2009
[16797x2]
OK, just read your post, makes sense ...
as for Chat - is there any shortcut to know, where I am posting by 
default? I mean - the only commands I use is "n" for new posts. The 
I want to add a reply. But adding a reply is different then simply 
posting "p". But - when adding a reply "r", I specify the message 
number, so I can be sure, where it goes. But where does simple "p" 
post it?
BrianH
18-Aug-2009
[16799x2]
In your current location (look at the prompt).
r posts in the same header as the original post, but the post can 
be moved later.
Pekr
18-Aug-2009
[16801]
hardly to know (when using n, lm), what is your "original post" - 
is it the latest one? I simply have to go to particular message number, 
and then use 'p or 'r there .... I think that for 'lm, I would welcome 
message category/path being displayed on the first line ....
BrianH
18-Aug-2009
[16802x2]
I use nn to determine the latest posts, then read the posst I want 
to reply to, then reply.
The "original post" you are replying to is displayed by n or nn with 
a > on the left of it. I usually enter the number for the post I 
want to reply to first, which displays in and sets the >. Then I 
use r. I wish there was an rp command...
Pekr
18-Aug-2009
[16804]
So am I correct thinking, that when I use "p" after "n", then I am 
replying in the header of message marked with ">"?
BrianH
18-Aug-2009
[16805x2]
r to reply, not p, but yes.
It you do p, you post in the header you are in (you can tell which 
that is from the prompt).
Pekr
18-Aug-2009
[16807]
after "n", my prompt is: "pekr:>>" - so where actually I would post? 
:-)