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[!REBOL3-OLD1]

Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16858]
you really think he meant you?  you're giving yourself to much importance 
 ;-p
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16859]
Did you noticed that too ?
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16860]
I did actually hehehe
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16861]
About set-block and get-block.

If it's only to save the use of SET and REDUCE, i think it's a little 
luxurious.
Henrik
21-Aug-2009
[16862]
It would have to work like set-word!s for contexts, to have more 
meaning. Could save a line of code.
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16863]
I don't see your point Henrik, can u give an example
Henrik
21-Aug-2009
[16864]
context [
	foo: fum: none
	set [foo fum] 3
]


'foo and 'fum stays in context with the NONE line. Without it, they 
don't.
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16865]
...
it's not a good example ;-)
i do this, context [foo: fum: 3]
Henrik
21-Aug-2009
[16866x3]
whoops, I meant like the get-block example above.
set [foo fum] [3 5]
could also reduce the size of some object specifications:

ret-value: [test 7]

make object! [
	[fnc arg]: :ret-value
]
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16869]
you can with R3
>> set c: construct [a: b:] [3 5]
== [3 5]

>> c
== make object! [
    a: 3
    b: 5
]
Henrik
21-Aug-2009
[16870x2]
or more generally: it can occur often that you need to set multiple 
words sequentially. there should be a syntax for that.
steeve, contexts usually contain much more than that, so CONSTRUCT 
is very limiting here.
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16872x2]
it works with CONTEXT too
set c: context [a: b: none] [3 5]
Henrik
21-Aug-2009
[16874]
same problem
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16875]
To me EEBOL is about syntax, and the get block set block idea seems 
very interesting.
Henrik
21-Aug-2009
[16876]
what happens when you say:

[a [b c]: d]: [1 [2 3] 4]
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16877]
very rebolish, but is that very usefull ?
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16878]
its just like op vs function notation to me...
z: ADD x y 
vs 
z: x + y
Henrik
21-Aug-2009
[16879]
I'm not sure it is. :-) but many things don't seem very useful on 
the surface. I'm still thinking in terms of setting mulitple words 
with multiple values in one operation. I hate picking words out of 
a block, one at a time. It becomes more powerful when you replace 
the blocks with words. Then you can use the same program structure 
to set one-to-many, one-to-one, many-to-one and many-to-many words.
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16880]
yep... like :

z: [b c] 
[a :z d]: [1 [2 3] 4]
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16881]
rough
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16882]
if z s a word, IT gets assigned [1 2]  if z is a get-word, its content 
is assigned to the content [1 2], so in the above, b and c would 
be 1 and 2 respectively.
Henrik
21-Aug-2009
[16883]
but then:

z: [b c]

:z: [3 4]

or what? :-)
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16884x4]
i would prefer another syntax to assign the content instead of the 
container
z:: [3 4]
double :
not bad eh ?
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16888x4]
well, its the current syntax  :z already means what I contain.
double colon makes no sense... what are you assigning to z?  a new 
datatype?
but Henrik's  :z:  has me puzzled here:

[a :z: d]: [1 [2 3] 4]

what would the above mean?  hehe
(in current form  of syntax)
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16892]
and what is your :z: ?
a new datatype too, much more confusing to my mind
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16893x2]
no :z already exists.   if z where a function, it returns the function 
itself, not its evaluation.
get words returns the content of the word without evaluating them.
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16895x3]
i don't speak about that
but :z:
that is a new datatype, a GET-SET
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16898x2]
ahhh... sorry, didn't see the last colon.
it already exists too!
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16900]
no
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16901x3]
it does in path notation.  its also silently ignored in the command 
line as long as the get-set word actually holds a word within  :-)
>> y: 'c
>> probe :y: func [][print "2"]
>> c

but it should assign the function to c... its logical actually.
in a path, it works though.
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16904x2]
but in plain REBOL, it has to be a new datatype
the path evaluation use another one scheme
Maxim
21-Aug-2009
[16906]
not, it should just do like in the path notation, get the value of 
the word, and set to that value .
Steeve
21-Aug-2009
[16907]
n