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PeterWood 12-Dec-2006 [1695] | ....but you don't look typically Anglo-Saxon, do you? |
Maxim 12-Dec-2006 [1696x3] | its funny because talk about visiting/working at any european country with people and they usually all have good things to say... |
talk about visiting/working in paris or some other big city in france and many people will have a funny story about being rebuffed ... | |
fortunately, we all know that Rebolers from france are cool dudes :-) | |
PeterWood 12-Dec-2006 [1699x2] | I can speak only a few words of French but didn't have encounter any problems, the few times I visited Paris. |
Perhaps learning just a few words makes a difference ? | |
Maxim 12-Dec-2006 [1701x2] | I really do think it depends on who you meet and why you go! |
for my part, the first time I landed in Charles de Gaule airport, I saw a lost traveler (french) asking for bus schedules, get screamed at by the stewardess at the help desk... cause he asked twice! :-) I got cut off in a line (as I was going to be served) waiting for a train ticket in paris... twice in a row... I was soooo surprised I didn't know how to react! I was then told a lot of people expected you to start arguing or else they are right ! its just funny really. :-) but my guess is that the more alien you are, the better people react . | |
[unknown: 9] 13-Dec-2006 [1703x2] | they sometimes look at you with a numb expression... you can almost see the gears working hard behind their eyes ;-) LOL! |
I'm looking forward to heading to the South of France though. | |
Gabriele 13-Dec-2006 [1705] | actually, i don't think it will be hard. i don't think english is less known in france than it is in italy, and we've been fine here :) |
Tomc 13-Dec-2006 [1706] | it may be less known "on principle" |
Anton 13-Dec-2006 [1707] | Reichart for ambassador to France ! :) |
Coccinelle 13-Dec-2006 [1708] | When I have landed to Dallas, people understand my english but me, I didn't understand anything. But don't worry, I had no problem there. You will experience the same in Paris if you speak in english, you will not understand the french response, but that's not a problem, people are very nice and will help you like people in Dallas did. |
Henrik 13-Dec-2006 [1709] | APPLY function mentioned in the R3 blog. |
Graham 13-Dec-2006 [1710] | where is that useful? |
DideC 14-Dec-2006 [1711x2] | It's funny to see Native English people afraid of going in a country where English is not as known as in ie. North european country :) Be sure that native French people are afraid too to go in ie. US. Very very few people speak a second language there !! |
But, he ! Paris is a touristic town !! So don't be afraid, you will find a way to be understood by others. And "arms" are universal language ;-) | |
Gregg 14-Dec-2006 [1713x2] | :-) Not only do very few of us speak a second language, but many of us have trouble with English. I always smile when I chat with people from around the world who apologize for their poor English when, in reality, it's often more correct than what American's write. It doesn't have the natural flow of a native speaker, but more advanced words are used, and used correctly. Knowing, now, how hard it was just to learn a few phrases in other languages for my dialect session, I have even more respect for all of you who give *entire* presentations in a non-native language. |
Of course, I write that, and then see I've misused an apostrophe in there (American's). :-\ | |
Maxim 14-Dec-2006 [1715] | hehe |
Geomol 14-Dec-2006 [1716] | :-D Gregg, you did a marvelous job with your multi-language intro at last DevCon. You tricked me for a second to think, you were fluent in all those languages. :-) I remember, I started to speak danish to you, and you raised your finger like saying: "I'm coming to that." hehe |
Gregg 14-Dec-2006 [1717] | I'll have to add Danish if I ever do it again. :-) I couldn't have done it without a lot of help from the native speakers, particularly Richard. I wasn't even *close* on my Czech, working from translated text. At least he got a good laugh out of it. :-) Fortunately, nobody was there who could criticize my Indonesian. |
[unknown: 9] 14-Dec-2006 [1718] | And arms" are universal language ;-)" So is MONEY : ) |
Volker 14-Dec-2006 [1719] | Not without arms. You need to point out - no, at - what you want! |
Rebolek 15-Dec-2006 [1720] | Actually most people have arms, that's not so true with money :) |
sqlab 15-Dec-2006 [1721] | depends of the meaning of "arm", arm like a limb or like a weapon. |
Rebolek 15-Dec-2006 [1722] | yes, weapons are universal language too ;-) |
Volker 15-Dec-2006 [1723] | but you need arms to hold them! |
Robert 15-Dec-2006 [1724] | 10/11 May? I'll be there. |
BrianH 15-Dec-2006 [1725] | And the vocabulary of weapons is a little limited. |
Maxim 15-Dec-2006 [1726] | ready, aim, fire that pretty much covers the dialect |
Henrik 15-Dec-2006 [1727] | and reload? |
sqlab 18-Dec-2006 [1728] | and lock and unlock.) |
Henrik 20-Dec-2006 [1729] | Ladislav, it wasn't until you wrote those two small examples, that I finally understood what APPLY is about. :-) |
CharlesS 20-Dec-2006 [1730] | what examples |
Henrik 20-Dec-2006 [1731] | charles, see the R3 blog on the APPLY function at the bottom of comments |
CharlesS 20-Dec-2006 [1732x2] | What advantages does HASH have over regular blocks, I can access a regular block like a dictionary anyway |
right ? | |
Henrik 20-Dec-2006 [1734] | it's very fast |
Maxim 20-Dec-2006 [1735x2] | speed.... MUCH faster on lookup |
IIRC slower on insert | |
Henrik 20-Dec-2006 [1737x3] | I think the normal procedure is to manipulate your block like you normally would and then convert it to hash! when you want to do lookups |
I posted something on the APPLY thing on empty argument blocks, which I think should produce an error. This made me think of whether there is a very easy way to tell how many arguments a function requires? | |
ah, first :+ == [value1 value ] | |
JaimeVargas 20-Dec-2006 [1740x2] | variable arg dispatching breaks a major premise of rebol dispatch mechanism. |
Henrick. In scheme/lisp. apply :+ [] ;== 0 whichs is a very sensible result. | |
Henrik 20-Dec-2006 [1742] | well, is it then not necessary to set up different rules for what it should output for different functions? |
JaimeVargas 20-Dec-2006 [1743x2] | I am not sure what you mean. Another example is: apply :* [] ;== 1 |
Scheme gives out this results because 0 and 1 are *neutral* numbers regarding addition and multiplaction. That is the result is unaltered by those values respectevely. | |
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