World: r3wp

you should have gotten an email from the curecode server

if not, then poke DocKimbel in the Curecode group.

Anyvay when you play with demo IP applications you can find that 
rebol doesn't clean memory the consumed memory grows slowly but after 
few hours/days you could be short of memory IMO. Not good for serious 
(server) application.

That sounds like a "good" bug. :-)

it is still possible that rebol does some garbage collection in some 
period/treshold but I'm not sure

there are some stats that you can output to tell whether GC has been 
performed.

stats/profile, I believe.

OK thanks Henrik, I'd try it.

PeterWood: I am missing the formulations from the doc articles you 
mentioned, that are in conflict with your result

Some example of using to-get-word, to-set-word, to-lit-word? what 
it is really for? especially in conjunction with extensions.

Some description would be helpful

I use them when building blocks, where 'reduce will remove set-words, 
get-words and reduces lit-words to workds.

So the resulting block seems as original one after reduce? short 
example pls. TIA

>> reduce [a: 2]
== [2] ; not what we want

>> reduce [to-set-word 'a 2] 
== [a: 2] ; what we want


Useful when building REBOL code or objects bit by bit. In R3 with 
extensible objects, you don't have to do that, though.

And given the ability to create REBOL code, you should be able to 
generate any datatype with a to-* function.

it's usefull when you are generating code from data

well, the example

    reduce [to-set-word 'a 2]

is not R3-ish, in R3 it could have been:

    reduce [quote a: 2]

oh, didn't see that one before.

yes, Quote is a new function. A mezzanine, actually

See the source, Henrik

doh :-)

Why to use reduce when you must defend your words by aditional armour 
:o

as follows: reduce [quote a: 1 + 1]

, i.e. in situations, where you actually do want to compute some 
parts of the block

nevertheless, I do not think, that Reduce (or Compose) is ideal, 
I proposed an alternative

in Reduce you have to "mark" what should be kept, while I prefer 
to mark what should be computed

Meaning extensions this should be used for some lexical operations 
or code trimming, I've think abour extensions in pure functional 
way before

(which is the case of Compose, except for the fact, that it does 
not handle parens good enough for me)

It is true that there are always new features that it takes a little 
time to understand the usefulness.
I'm caught regularly.

Even if I had noticed the existence of QUOTE, I saw no interest until 
the Ladislav's example.

glad to advertise this useful new feature

I suppose 'build is kind of an opposite to 'reduce.

yes, or, stated differently, it is a kind of improved Compose

Perhaps a shortcul should be defined. Because I feel that it will 
be often used as an alternative to COMPOSE.
Is this name QUOTE not a bit too long ?

(i.e. my idea, how Compose should have worked)

it has a few gotchas though. can they be removed?

*shortcut

it = 'build

please, check http://www.rebol.net/wiki/Replacementand add your 
notes/preferences

(this is where the Quote function appeared, btw)

I didn't knew this page. Shame on me

some proposals for a short  alias of  QUOTE.
ice
lay
sit

the biggest advantage of the word 'quote is, that it is somewhat 
"standard"/"understandable"/"self-explanatory"

i just think about an alias to shorten our code, the standardd word 
QUOTE would stay.

so, for example the expressions:

    'a

, and

    quote a

have the same effect

, but, certainly, a simple shortcut may be of use

I have an old quote func as well. Two actually, and they do very 
different things. One prevents evaluation, and one encloses the value 
in double quote chars. I think the latter is the better use of the 
name, and we should come up with a better name for the func that 
prevents evaluation.

keep
 ?

KEEP is used inside COLLECT.  Something along the lines of LIT or 
LITERAL clearly says what it does.

One of my problems with R3 is that I get this feeling that an R3 
beta is immenant but feel it is still long way off and have concerns 
about the negative impact that will bring.  There is a great deal 
of expectation for the beta and I feel it is going to be viewed on 
Monday morning as a disappointment when it comes.  I'm hoping that 
the REBOL team makes sure that it hasen't left little things undone 
such as being able to change a date on a directory, etc...

That's part of the host code is it ot?

n