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[unknown: 10]
6-Sep-2007
[4384x2]
I did not read anything about "Threading" in R3.. Is there any news 
on that part.. or will R3 just do more flexible 'event handling? 
(as an alternative)
Pekr.. I hope its a public Beta..but i do think is an improved closed 
alpha release...
Henrik
7-Sep-2007
[4386x2]
threading is there, but is not yet tested very much.
or tasks, as it's called.
RobertS
7-Sep-2007
[4388]
tasks is the word architects seem to prefer to use these days -- 
glad that is the choice -- getting each of these little things right 
 adds up ...  I hope
Graham
8-Sep-2007
[4389]
Do VID3 buttons appropriately resize themselves to contain their 
text?  usually we have specify the size of the button now.
Henrik
8-Sep-2007
[4390]
BUTTON doesn't. BTN does.
Graham
8-Sep-2007
[4391]
Know why the difference?
Henrik
8-Sep-2007
[4392]
has something to do with the resizing algorithm in the new layout 
scheme
Graham
8-Sep-2007
[4393x2]
So, with 'btn I can have text ranging from 1 char to 100 chars?
And it will resize appropriately?
Henrik
8-Sep-2007
[4395x2]
yes, but it still depends also on the size of the layout, I believe
checked. it doesn't.
Graham
8-Sep-2007
[4397x2]
Hmm.
Seems a simple requirement .. needed for localisation etc
Henrik
8-Sep-2007
[4399]
shouldn't be a problem
Graham
8-Sep-2007
[4400]
to implement?
Henrik
8-Sep-2007
[4401]
gabriele has a localization system that we might use
Graham
8-Sep-2007
[4402]
localisation was just an example
Gabriele
9-Sep-2007
[4403]
we're keeping the VID1 naming here, although we can change that. 
BUTTON in VID1 was fixed size while BTN was variable size. in many 
cases, you want all buttons with more or less the same size, so you 
use BUTTON; when you want them to adapt to the text size, you use 
BTN.
Pekr
9-Sep-2007
[4404]
yes, multiple buttons in a panel e.g. - you want the probably of 
the same size, aligned, to look nice ...
Gabriele
9-Sep-2007
[4405]
view [btn "Button with a very long text"] works perfectly here. also 
notice that if you set-face the button with another text, the size 
is adjusted in real time.
Graham
9-Sep-2007
[4406]
Nice
Terry
9-Sep-2007
[4407]
2007, and still going ga-ga over buttons.
Pekr
9-Sep-2007
[4408]
Terry, there is more work done, than just buttons. Python has tonnes 
of developers, yet they plan 1 year or more for 3.0 to appear. I 
read some of their plans, and even if they change many things and 
break compatibility, it all sounds like cosmetic changes in comparison 
to R2 vs R3 ....
Terry
9-Sep-2007
[4409]
I was expecting a fully functioning C3PO by now.
Pekr
10-Sep-2007
[4410]
Just a note for those who might be curious. From Carl today:

Just a note of interest...
I've built the first version of R3 for Linux and OSX.
Console only, with file and dir I/O.
They pass most of the non-graphics tests.

John (Geomol) will be working on the OSX features in the days ahead.


.... just to let you know, that other platforms are not forgotten 
....
Terry
10-Sep-2007
[4411]
Back in the day, a key feature of R was it running on 40+ OS... 
Seems these days, that's down to 3.  

Hooray.
Pekr
10-Sep-2007
[4412x2]
Never satisfied, Terry? ;-) 40+ was exagerrated too - various Linux 
flavors are just one OS. And remember, with R3 - who wants to port, 
can. REBOL.dll, the only closed part, is platform agnostic code, 
so in order for RT to port, all they need to do (theoretically), 
is to recompile .....
As for me, I initially expected only Windows version of R3. But due 
to certain popularity of OS-X and Linux fans here, other ports are 
already happening. What is wrong with that?
Henrik
10-Sep-2007
[4414]
well, Carl was clever this time around, so if 40+ platforms aren't 
supported by the end of 2008, it's entirely your own fault. :-)
Pekr
10-Sep-2007
[4415]
good times ahead, guys: "Carl: Now, I think we are at a stage when 
it would be a good idea to get more people involved." :-)
Henrik
10-Sep-2007
[4416]
yes, things are going to warm up now :-)
btiffin
10-Sep-2007
[4417]
I'll be backporting the Alpha release history on the calendar here 
for the curious.  I'm working backwards and info will go in in spurts.
sqlab
10-Sep-2007
[4418]
what means more people, public alpha or beta or just by invitation?
Henrik
10-Sep-2007
[4419]
more information will follow
Pekr
10-Sep-2007
[4420]
yes, from now on, it at least seems, that we can post new info here, 
non ML, on rebolweek. And if I understand it correctly, Carl will 
open-up some plans - he want to add another ppl into various areas 
- code, testing, docs, website and marketing, etc.
Will
10-Sep-2007
[4421]
Great news! please send me a copy of R3 on osx!
Terry
10-Sep-2007
[4422]
Please send me a C3PO running on Linux
sqlab
12-Sep-2007
[4423]
I tried to apply for R3 according #0102, but I got just 
Blogger Error:

Duplicate posting or abuse detected from ...
Jerry
12-Sep-2007
[4424]
New Blog Article: R3 now on Linux and OSX
http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0102.html
Rebolek
12-Sep-2007
[4425]
sqlab: you can have this error if your message is too short also. 
don't remember the limit
[unknown: 10]
12-Sep-2007
[4426]
Gabriele: What help is needed currently on what part? (regaring to 
the posting of Cral's blog)
Pekr
12-Sep-2007
[4427]
Rebolinth - Gabriele might have new information of course, but I 
don't think Carl explicitly stated the concrete wish for help. However, 
he said in general:

- new ppl can join testing, if they wish to
- we can post news here, on ml, rebolweek
- no official articles, preliminar reviews posted on public sites
- ppl can join to help with docs
- ppl can join to help with marketing/website definition

- ppl can join, if they wish to help with porting to other platform
[unknown: 10]
12-Sep-2007
[4428x3]
Oww.. oke... what I was refering to was (from the last Blog ..."But, 
now that's been said, if you have the expertise and knowledge to 
contribute to the project, and you really enjoy fine-tuned engines, 
please do not hesitate to contact Gabriele or myself."
So I should contact Carl or Gabriele directly regarding the issues 
you mentioned?
Ill drop Gabriele a note..
Gabriele
12-Sep-2007
[4431]
Porting is what requires very specialized skills, eg. knowing the 
OSX api well for eg.
btiffin
13-Sep-2007
[4432]
Posted the on-going history of the Alpha releases to the REBOL Week 
blog.  Please note;  The work is on-going.  R3 is still in ALPHA. 
This is an informational blog posting only...for the curious.
[unknown: 10]
17-Sep-2007
[4433]
Q: is there any information on the minimum system requirements for 
running R3? (regarding cpu memory) I can emagine that wont differ 
much from the current statement...