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[unknown: 10] 6-Sep-2007 [4384x2] | I did not read anything about "Threading" in R3.. Is there any news on that part.. or will R3 just do more flexible 'event handling? (as an alternative) |
Pekr.. I hope its a public Beta..but i do think is an improved closed alpha release... | |
Henrik 7-Sep-2007 [4386x2] | threading is there, but is not yet tested very much. |
or tasks, as it's called. | |
RobertS 7-Sep-2007 [4388] | tasks is the word architects seem to prefer to use these days -- glad that is the choice -- getting each of these little things right adds up ... I hope |
Graham 8-Sep-2007 [4389] | Do VID3 buttons appropriately resize themselves to contain their text? usually we have specify the size of the button now. |
Henrik 8-Sep-2007 [4390] | BUTTON doesn't. BTN does. |
Graham 8-Sep-2007 [4391] | Know why the difference? |
Henrik 8-Sep-2007 [4392] | has something to do with the resizing algorithm in the new layout scheme |
Graham 8-Sep-2007 [4393x2] | So, with 'btn I can have text ranging from 1 char to 100 chars? |
And it will resize appropriately? | |
Henrik 8-Sep-2007 [4395x2] | yes, but it still depends also on the size of the layout, I believe |
checked. it doesn't. | |
Graham 8-Sep-2007 [4397x2] | Hmm. |
Seems a simple requirement .. needed for localisation etc | |
Henrik 8-Sep-2007 [4399] | shouldn't be a problem |
Graham 8-Sep-2007 [4400] | to implement? |
Henrik 8-Sep-2007 [4401] | gabriele has a localization system that we might use |
Graham 8-Sep-2007 [4402] | localisation was just an example |
Gabriele 9-Sep-2007 [4403] | we're keeping the VID1 naming here, although we can change that. BUTTON in VID1 was fixed size while BTN was variable size. in many cases, you want all buttons with more or less the same size, so you use BUTTON; when you want them to adapt to the text size, you use BTN. |
Pekr 9-Sep-2007 [4404] | yes, multiple buttons in a panel e.g. - you want the probably of the same size, aligned, to look nice ... |
Gabriele 9-Sep-2007 [4405] | view [btn "Button with a very long text"] works perfectly here. also notice that if you set-face the button with another text, the size is adjusted in real time. |
Graham 9-Sep-2007 [4406] | Nice |
Terry 9-Sep-2007 [4407] | 2007, and still going ga-ga over buttons. |
Pekr 9-Sep-2007 [4408] | Terry, there is more work done, than just buttons. Python has tonnes of developers, yet they plan 1 year or more for 3.0 to appear. I read some of their plans, and even if they change many things and break compatibility, it all sounds like cosmetic changes in comparison to R2 vs R3 .... |
Terry 9-Sep-2007 [4409] | I was expecting a fully functioning C3PO by now. |
Pekr 10-Sep-2007 [4410] | Just a note for those who might be curious. From Carl today: Just a note of interest... I've built the first version of R3 for Linux and OSX. Console only, with file and dir I/O. They pass most of the non-graphics tests. John (Geomol) will be working on the OSX features in the days ahead. .... just to let you know, that other platforms are not forgotten .... |
Terry 10-Sep-2007 [4411] | Back in the day, a key feature of R was it running on 40+ OS... Seems these days, that's down to 3. Hooray. |
Pekr 10-Sep-2007 [4412x2] | Never satisfied, Terry? ;-) 40+ was exagerrated too - various Linux flavors are just one OS. And remember, with R3 - who wants to port, can. REBOL.dll, the only closed part, is platform agnostic code, so in order for RT to port, all they need to do (theoretically), is to recompile ..... |
As for me, I initially expected only Windows version of R3. But due to certain popularity of OS-X and Linux fans here, other ports are already happening. What is wrong with that? | |
Henrik 10-Sep-2007 [4414] | well, Carl was clever this time around, so if 40+ platforms aren't supported by the end of 2008, it's entirely your own fault. :-) |
Pekr 10-Sep-2007 [4415] | good times ahead, guys: "Carl: Now, I think we are at a stage when it would be a good idea to get more people involved." :-) |
Henrik 10-Sep-2007 [4416] | yes, things are going to warm up now :-) |
btiffin 10-Sep-2007 [4417] | I'll be backporting the Alpha release history on the calendar here for the curious. I'm working backwards and info will go in in spurts. |
sqlab 10-Sep-2007 [4418] | what means more people, public alpha or beta or just by invitation? |
Henrik 10-Sep-2007 [4419] | more information will follow |
Pekr 10-Sep-2007 [4420] | yes, from now on, it at least seems, that we can post new info here, non ML, on rebolweek. And if I understand it correctly, Carl will open-up some plans - he want to add another ppl into various areas - code, testing, docs, website and marketing, etc. |
Will 10-Sep-2007 [4421] | Great news! please send me a copy of R3 on osx! |
Terry 10-Sep-2007 [4422] | Please send me a C3PO running on Linux |
sqlab 12-Sep-2007 [4423] | I tried to apply for R3 according #0102, but I got just Blogger Error: Duplicate posting or abuse detected from ... |
Jerry 12-Sep-2007 [4424] | New Blog Article: R3 now on Linux and OSX http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0102.html |
Rebolek 12-Sep-2007 [4425] | sqlab: you can have this error if your message is too short also. don't remember the limit |
[unknown: 10] 12-Sep-2007 [4426] | Gabriele: What help is needed currently on what part? (regaring to the posting of Cral's blog) |
Pekr 12-Sep-2007 [4427] | Rebolinth - Gabriele might have new information of course, but I don't think Carl explicitly stated the concrete wish for help. However, he said in general: - new ppl can join testing, if they wish to - we can post news here, on ml, rebolweek - no official articles, preliminar reviews posted on public sites - ppl can join to help with docs - ppl can join to help with marketing/website definition - ppl can join, if they wish to help with porting to other platform |
[unknown: 10] 12-Sep-2007 [4428x3] | Oww.. oke... what I was refering to was (from the last Blog ..."But, now that's been said, if you have the expertise and knowledge to contribute to the project, and you really enjoy fine-tuned engines, please do not hesitate to contact Gabriele or myself." |
So I should contact Carl or Gabriele directly regarding the issues you mentioned? | |
Ill drop Gabriele a note.. | |
Gabriele 12-Sep-2007 [4431] | Porting is what requires very specialized skills, eg. knowing the OSX api well for eg. |
btiffin 13-Sep-2007 [4432] | Posted the on-going history of the Alpha releases to the REBOL Week blog. Please note; The work is on-going. R3 is still in ALPHA. This is an informational blog posting only...for the curious. |
[unknown: 10] 17-Sep-2007 [4433] | Q: is there any information on the minimum system requirements for running R3? (regarding cpu memory) I can emagine that wont differ much from the current statement... |
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