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Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4984] | you're looking at it :-) |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4985] | Ok, not video styles anymore? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4986x2] | sorry, I'm in fact wrong. it is in fact different lines. but it would be possible to do in rich text. |
I should do some rich text tests and show you that. | |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4988] | rich text in an area gadget |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4989] | not supported yet. will come. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4990] | I wonder how the different styles will be implemented .. perhaps as they do in web browsers? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4991] | probably something like that |
PeterWood 11-Oct-2007 [4992] | I hope you are just trying to keep a secret from us all Henrik because it would be worrying to think such design decisions haven't been made yet. |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4993] | which ones? :-) |
PeterWood 11-Oct-2007 [4994] | How sttyles will be implemented. |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4995] | do you think that it will be impossible to make such a design decision? |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [4996x2] | I was meaning how to enter the different styles inside a text box .. would it need a menu bar to pick the different styles |
drop downs for emoticons etc | |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [4998x2] | it probably would. there would be great value in a single text editor style with toolbar and things. |
view [rich-text-editor] looks nice :-) I think we should do that. | |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5000] | of course it would be nice to be able to cut and paste some rich text html and have it come out the same in a rich text box |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5001] | yes, that would be nice. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5002] | I'm surprised how often this actually works with web apps |
DaveC 11-Oct-2007 [5003] | Pekr Hi. To answer your question, I was thinking about the WxWidget/Gtk/Tk toolkits. They have a basic HTML control. Given the web-rich nature of Rebol, this would be a great feature. Not Python per se, but the wrappers around those toolkits. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5004x2] | I wonder if anything is going to be done to support the windows tablet os |
with inking support | |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5006] | I don't think RT will do that on their own. That would be a third party project. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5007] | as long as there hooks to make this possible |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5008] | I think that as long as a driver can be written for a device, R3 can support it. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5009x3] | and simple things like right click on a text box brings up copy/paste support |
being different has its drawbacks when writing application software | |
when you don't support standard system widget functionality | |
DaveC 11-Oct-2007 [5012] | Henrik: Is your VID-LIST going to be built into VID3? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5013x3] | when the menu style has been implemented, then it will be possible to use popup menus. |
daveC, no, it's too complex and not very well written, but Gabriele and I will take the features one by one and reimplement the most important ones. LIST-VIEW takes up almost as much source code as the entire of VID3. | |
LIST-VIEW doesn't follow the 80% rule. | |
DaveC 11-Oct-2007 [5016] | Ok. nice to know that it's going to be there in short form. |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5017x2] | but won't v3 be so efficient that you can rewrist list-view in one page of code?? |
:) | |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5019x2] | it will be essential, so yes, it will be made. there is a simple text list now that has multiple resizable columns, very small (and ugly in appearance) and fairly fast. |
graham, I wouldn't be surprised if it could be reduced to 20-25 kb of code, even with all features. | |
DaveC 11-Oct-2007 [5021] | That it good to hear. For DB work we need that type of function. |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5022x2] | LIST-VIEW is also very monolithic. the filtering and search functions don't really belong there. we need to separate that to make it more flexible for cases where you only need filtering or searching but not display. |
and then R3 LIST-VIEW would just display whatever is fed to it. that's a smarter way to do it. | |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5024x2] | Hmm |
which means 2 copies of the data | |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5026x2] | well, you can't avoid that |
and it won't matter much when GOBs are so much more memory efficient. | |
Graham 11-Oct-2007 [5028] | sorting is different then? |
Henrik 11-Oct-2007 [5029x2] | I imagine we'd use a sort index like now and just point to the different lines in the data block as the list view is rendered. |
but nothing is written yet. Gabriele probably has much better ideas than me on how to do it fast and efficiently. :-) | |
Pekr 11-Oct-2007 [5031x3] | 2 copies of data? That definitely sucks. |
I think that you guys should be inspired by cyphre's grid for rebgui, which he was paid for, but sadly it did not get utilised :-) Grid has to be able to display data right away from the result of SQL query, period. | |
I pushed Cyphre to give me virtual columns, so I was able to hide, insert columns, have columns with other functionality, but those were kept outside the main data block. | |
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