World: r3wp

I was kidding of course about readability - don't want Rebol to become 
write only like Forth :)

I guess we need to know what we can get before we start naming things.

I'd suggest sticking with system/console/last and then set up your 
own %user.r shortcuts around that -- everything in its place...

I'm leaning toward agreement with that Chris.

Ditto, and I'd like to limit the number of "console-only" words we 
add to the global context.

I suggest 'bike-shed

Kaj;  :)

The request for this feature has become more formal.  Mr. Hawley 
put in the ticket.  He has an excellent grasp of upcoming security 
and threading issues and worded the request accordingly.  The request 
went   in as system/console/last.  That could change and it's still 
only a request; but there it is.

so, it's only console?

not usable from within a script?

That's still a question, but I'd guess console, as part of the display 
result sequence...maybe?

usable within a script

 would just slow things down, as there's no reason to use it at all.

to save allocating a local variable ?

It might affect readability?

1 + 2
4 - result

Then can't you just compound the two lines and save a carriage return 
as well ;-)

Just wondering if there is any point in having a result stack we 
can push results onto and then use?  Is that faster than using local 
variables?

Dunno. But then, does it help readability?

there must be a penalty in creating variables in terms of memory 
allocation, and deallocation

if readibility were so important, Carl woudn't use one letter variables 
in his code :)

the stack would have the same penalty as variables

also, if it's the last expression, no variable is needed.

I wonder when this "wine" period is over for RT :-)

Does the new draw have a concept of current position on the canvas?

Which is also accessible to the user ...

only within the shape commands as per R2

pity

it would make it easier to do typesetting if we had a currentposition 
command as in postscrip

you can always store it manually i guess and process the draw block..

could probably make a type setting dialect around that. many new 
dialects are possible.

there is currently a dialect extension to make draw drawings automatically 
resizable.

graham, do you know if there is such a dialect for R2?

Nope.

I see that Apple plan on releasing an SDK for the iPhone in Feb ... 
let's hope R3 has some way of being ported to this platform.

http://www.apple.com/hotnews/

porting to the iphone/ipod is one thing i would try :) (my brother 
has an ipod touch). but, i'm not sure apple would allow a programming 
language in...

It'll be interesting to see what exactly they allow. Not being specific 
enough in this area worries me a bit, so we can't tell whether it's 
going to be completely free, but has to be approved by Apple, or 
if only the big boys with the big money are allowed to play.

Are there going to be any interrupts that are based on absolute times?

Or, are we going to have to run our own timers and count the time 
ourselves?

I have the need for long running server applications to do house 
keeping at night ...

Generic timer events will come, since this is needed for animation 
in VID3. I think you can use them for that, but Gabriele knows more.

I could post my little cron dialect for R2. It's been doing backups 
for months without trouble.

I used Bo's cron script some time ago and that seemed to work ... 
I'm just interested in knowing how the timer events will work.

Forinstance, my Cerebrus anti-spam script regularly ran out of resources 
and crashed after a week or so, so I was wanting to reboot it once 
a day as it were to prevent that happening.

I'd also like my emr script to start processing various tasks after 
mid-night - like sending out email reminders to patients etc.

I have the same need Graham, so I'll push for good built-in support 
too.

a bit more progress on DevBase today to allow uploading of many files 
in bulk. still a few more bits to do. DevBase will hold the code 
to itself, so we can help updating it along the way.

there are now a few extra useful mezzanines that haven't been added 
to R3 officially. perhaps they will go in there as well.

356 bug reports

http://hmkdesign.dk/rebol/files/2e7e2c962a9c8d14e93919f5b007e5f6-85.html
<-- a small blurp about DocBase

more news on DevBase folks ?

Carl is asking questions among developers privately on some final 
issues.

I really don't undersant why there is so many people crying... I 
have Uniserve runing for several months without problems, parsing 
about 50 pages two times per day to provide culture informations 
in the city I live, I use Rebol to build PHP sites, Flash apps, as 
a proxy server as, a clasic system console and for so many every 
day scripting and I really cannot imagine I would use something else 
than Rebol for such a job. And if you still think that you cannot 
do anything in R2 and have to wait for R3 to start, you can take 
a look for other technology. With computer languages it's same like 
with normal languages - the more languages you know, the better you 
are.