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Chris
15-Oct-2007
[5154]
I'd suggest sticking with system/console/last and then set up your 
own %user.r shortcuts around that -- everything in its place...
btiffin
15-Oct-2007
[5155]
I'm leaning toward agreement with that Chris.
Ashley
16-Oct-2007
[5156]
Ditto, and I'd like to limit the number of "console-only" words we 
add to the global context.
Kaj
16-Oct-2007
[5157]
I suggest 'bike-shed
btiffin
16-Oct-2007
[5158]
Kaj;  :)

The request for this feature has become more formal.  Mr. Hawley 
put in the ticket.  He has an excellent grasp of upcoming security 
and threading issues and worded the request accordingly.  The request 
went   in as system/console/last.  That could change and it's still 
only a request; but there it is.
Graham
16-Oct-2007
[5159x2]
so, it's only console?
not usable from within a script?
btiffin
16-Oct-2007
[5161]
That's still a question, but I'd guess console, as part of the display 
result sequence...maybe?
Gabriele
17-Oct-2007
[5162]
usable within a script

 would just slow things down, as there's no reason to use it at all.
Graham
17-Oct-2007
[5163]
to save allocating a local variable ?
Chris
17-Oct-2007
[5164]
It might affect readability?

1 + 2
4 - result
PeterWood
18-Oct-2007
[5165]
Then can't you just compound the two lines and save a carriage return 
as well ;-)
Graham
18-Oct-2007
[5166]
Just wondering if there is any point in having a result stack we 
can push results onto and then use?  Is that faster than using local 
variables?
Ingo
18-Oct-2007
[5167]
Dunno. But then, does it help readability?
Graham
18-Oct-2007
[5168x2]
there must be a penalty in creating variables in terms of memory 
allocation, and deallocation
if readibility were so important, Carl woudn't use one letter variables 
in his code :)
Gabriele
18-Oct-2007
[5170x2]
the stack would have the same penalty as variables
also, if it's the last expression, no variable is needed.
Pekr
18-Oct-2007
[5172]
I wonder when this "wine" period is over for RT :-)
Graham
19-Oct-2007
[5173x2]
Does the new draw have a concept of current position on the canvas?
Which is also accessible to the user ...
ICarii
19-Oct-2007
[5175]
only within the shape commands as per R2
Graham
19-Oct-2007
[5176x2]
pity
it would make it easier to do typesetting if we had a currentposition 
command as in postscrip
ICarii
19-Oct-2007
[5178]
you can always store it manually i guess and process the draw block..
Henrik
19-Oct-2007
[5179x3]
could probably make a type setting dialect around that. many new 
dialects are possible.
there is currently a dialect extension to make draw drawings automatically 
resizable.
graham, do you know if there is such a dialect for R2?
Graham
19-Oct-2007
[5182x3]
Nope.
I see that Apple plan on releasing an SDK for the iPhone in Feb ... 
let's hope R3 has some way of being ported to this platform.
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/
Gabriele
21-Oct-2007
[5185]
porting to the iphone/ipod is one thing i would try :) (my brother 
has an ipod touch). but, i'm not sure apple would allow a programming 
language in...
Henrik
21-Oct-2007
[5186]
It'll be interesting to see what exactly they allow. Not being specific 
enough in this area worries me a bit, so we can't tell whether it's 
going to be completely free, but has to be approved by Apple, or 
if only the big boys with the big money are allowed to play.
Graham
21-Oct-2007
[5187x3]
Are there going to be any interrupts that are based on absolute times?
Or, are we going to have to run our own timers and count the time 
ourselves?
I have the need for long running server applications to do house 
keeping at night ...
Henrik
21-Oct-2007
[5190]
Generic timer events will come, since this is needed for animation 
in VID3. I think you can use them for that, but Gabriele knows more.

I could post my little cron dialect for R2. It's been doing backups 
for months without trouble.
Graham
21-Oct-2007
[5191x3]
I used Bo's cron script some time ago and that seemed to work ... 
I'm just interested in knowing how the timer events will work.
Forinstance, my Cerebrus anti-spam script regularly ran out of resources 
and crashed after a week or so, so I was wanting to reboot it once 
a day as it were to prevent that happening.
I'd also like my emr script to start processing various tasks after 
mid-night - like sending out email reminders to patients etc.
Gregg
21-Oct-2007
[5194]
I have the same need Graham, so I'll push for good built-in support 
too.
Henrik
23-Oct-2007
[5195x4]
a bit more progress on DevBase today to allow uploading of many files 
in bulk. still a few more bits to do. DevBase will hold the code 
to itself, so we can help updating it along the way.
there are now a few extra useful mezzanines that haven't been added 
to R3 officially. perhaps they will go in there as well.
356 bug reports
http://hmkdesign.dk/rebol/files/2e7e2c962a9c8d14e93919f5b007e5f6-85.html
<-- a small blurp about DocBase
Steeve
24-Oct-2007
[5199]
more news on DevBase folks ?
Henrik
24-Oct-2007
[5200]
Carl is asking questions among developers privately on some final 
issues.
Oldes
25-Oct-2007
[5201]
I really don't undersant why there is so many people crying... I 
have Uniserve runing for several months without problems, parsing 
about 50 pages two times per day to provide culture informations 
in the city I live, I use Rebol to build PHP sites, Flash apps, as 
a proxy server as, a clasic system console and for so many every 
day scripting and I really cannot imagine I would use something else 
than Rebol for such a job. And if you still think that you cannot 
do anything in R2 and have to wait for R3 to start, you can take 
a look for other technology. With computer languages it's same like 
with normal languages - the more languages you know, the better you 
are.
Pekr
25-Oct-2007
[5202x2]
Oldes - to whom are you replying to? :-)
I think that noone is waiting. We simply got to the stage of nearly 
extinction of entire REBOL humankind :-)