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Chris 15-Oct-2007 [5154] | I'd suggest sticking with system/console/last and then set up your own %user.r shortcuts around that -- everything in its place... |
btiffin 15-Oct-2007 [5155] | I'm leaning toward agreement with that Chris. |
Ashley 16-Oct-2007 [5156] | Ditto, and I'd like to limit the number of "console-only" words we add to the global context. |
Kaj 16-Oct-2007 [5157] | I suggest 'bike-shed |
btiffin 16-Oct-2007 [5158] | Kaj; :) The request for this feature has become more formal. Mr. Hawley put in the ticket. He has an excellent grasp of upcoming security and threading issues and worded the request accordingly. The request went in as system/console/last. That could change and it's still only a request; but there it is. |
Graham 16-Oct-2007 [5159x2] | so, it's only console? |
not usable from within a script? | |
btiffin 16-Oct-2007 [5161] | That's still a question, but I'd guess console, as part of the display result sequence...maybe? |
Gabriele 17-Oct-2007 [5162] | usable within a script would just slow things down, as there's no reason to use it at all. |
Graham 17-Oct-2007 [5163] | to save allocating a local variable ? |
Chris 17-Oct-2007 [5164] | It might affect readability? 1 + 2 4 - result |
PeterWood 18-Oct-2007 [5165] | Then can't you just compound the two lines and save a carriage return as well ;-) |
Graham 18-Oct-2007 [5166] | Just wondering if there is any point in having a result stack we can push results onto and then use? Is that faster than using local variables? |
Ingo 18-Oct-2007 [5167] | Dunno. But then, does it help readability? |
Graham 18-Oct-2007 [5168x2] | there must be a penalty in creating variables in terms of memory allocation, and deallocation |
if readibility were so important, Carl woudn't use one letter variables in his code :) | |
Gabriele 18-Oct-2007 [5170x2] | the stack would have the same penalty as variables |
also, if it's the last expression, no variable is needed. | |
Pekr 18-Oct-2007 [5172] | I wonder when this "wine" period is over for RT :-) |
Graham 19-Oct-2007 [5173x2] | Does the new draw have a concept of current position on the canvas? |
Which is also accessible to the user ... | |
ICarii 19-Oct-2007 [5175] | only within the shape commands as per R2 |
Graham 19-Oct-2007 [5176x2] | pity |
it would make it easier to do typesetting if we had a currentposition command as in postscrip | |
ICarii 19-Oct-2007 [5178] | you can always store it manually i guess and process the draw block.. |
Henrik 19-Oct-2007 [5179x3] | could probably make a type setting dialect around that. many new dialects are possible. |
there is currently a dialect extension to make draw drawings automatically resizable. | |
graham, do you know if there is such a dialect for R2? | |
Graham 19-Oct-2007 [5182x3] | Nope. |
I see that Apple plan on releasing an SDK for the iPhone in Feb ... let's hope R3 has some way of being ported to this platform. | |
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/ | |
Gabriele 21-Oct-2007 [5185] | porting to the iphone/ipod is one thing i would try :) (my brother has an ipod touch). but, i'm not sure apple would allow a programming language in... |
Henrik 21-Oct-2007 [5186] | It'll be interesting to see what exactly they allow. Not being specific enough in this area worries me a bit, so we can't tell whether it's going to be completely free, but has to be approved by Apple, or if only the big boys with the big money are allowed to play. |
Graham 21-Oct-2007 [5187x3] | Are there going to be any interrupts that are based on absolute times? |
Or, are we going to have to run our own timers and count the time ourselves? | |
I have the need for long running server applications to do house keeping at night ... | |
Henrik 21-Oct-2007 [5190] | Generic timer events will come, since this is needed for animation in VID3. I think you can use them for that, but Gabriele knows more. I could post my little cron dialect for R2. It's been doing backups for months without trouble. |
Graham 21-Oct-2007 [5191x3] | I used Bo's cron script some time ago and that seemed to work ... I'm just interested in knowing how the timer events will work. |
Forinstance, my Cerebrus anti-spam script regularly ran out of resources and crashed after a week or so, so I was wanting to reboot it once a day as it were to prevent that happening. | |
I'd also like my emr script to start processing various tasks after mid-night - like sending out email reminders to patients etc. | |
Gregg 21-Oct-2007 [5194] | I have the same need Graham, so I'll push for good built-in support too. |
Henrik 23-Oct-2007 [5195x4] | a bit more progress on DevBase today to allow uploading of many files in bulk. still a few more bits to do. DevBase will hold the code to itself, so we can help updating it along the way. |
there are now a few extra useful mezzanines that haven't been added to R3 officially. perhaps they will go in there as well. | |
356 bug reports | |
http://hmkdesign.dk/rebol/files/2e7e2c962a9c8d14e93919f5b007e5f6-85.html <-- a small blurp about DocBase | |
Steeve 24-Oct-2007 [5199] | more news on DevBase folks ? |
Henrik 24-Oct-2007 [5200] | Carl is asking questions among developers privately on some final issues. |
Oldes 25-Oct-2007 [5201] | I really don't undersant why there is so many people crying... I have Uniserve runing for several months without problems, parsing about 50 pages two times per day to provide culture informations in the city I live, I use Rebol to build PHP sites, Flash apps, as a proxy server as, a clasic system console and for so many every day scripting and I really cannot imagine I would use something else than Rebol for such a job. And if you still think that you cannot do anything in R2 and have to wait for R3 to start, you can take a look for other technology. With computer languages it's same like with normal languages - the more languages you know, the better you are. |
Pekr 25-Oct-2007 [5202x2] | Oldes - to whom are you replying to? :-) |
I think that noone is waiting. We simply got to the stage of nearly extinction of entire REBOL humankind :-) | |
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