World: r3wp

nice alpha, any chance to get get some pre-information how to use/test 
 task!  ?   f-t: make task! [ ] [  print now/precise] ?

I did only some small test ... I posted some short console data, 
but can't remember where :-)

>> test: make task! [wait 10 print ["Does tasking work?" newline]]
== task!
>> do test
Begin Task
== task!
>> print "Doing something else in console..."
Doing something else in console...
>> Does tasking work?

End Task

>>

thx pekr,  will try this.

strange, wait - within the task will crash rebol

really? Above code worked back in October ...

yes, it works via console but not with vid

test: make task! [wait 10 print ["Does tasking work?" newline]]

 view [

    h2 "Task" 
    button "Start" 	[do test]
    button "Stop"  	[   ]
    button "Quit" 	[unview none]
]

without wait it works..but ok it's alpha...

Confirmed.

Tasks don't work very well yet. AFAIK, this will be solved after 
modules are finalized, after Unicode.

new blog regarding loading, encoders/decoders - http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0109.html

TomBon;  Last I heard, Carl confirmed that tasks are not yet advertised 
as ready for primetime.

modules are probably a good thing to test. we have only few test 
cases for that.

thx for the info btiffin.

Henrik, thanks for the vmware note, good to know - also the issue 
with rebol 2 on the newer macs, wasn't thinking about both sides 
of the problem.

It seems to work on macs that were upgraded from Tiger without doing 
a clean install or an archive and install. Some library is being 
carried over from the Tiger install, I think.

Ah, I remember the issue now.  That is a pain, it does work fine 
for me in Leopard.  If you need more help tracking down what is different 
let me know, don't mind poking around for you.  I have both intel 
and ppc macs that are still on tiger that might help as well.

well, I've tried digging out the version numbers for libraries used 
on both Leopard machines that work and Leopard machines that don't 
work and the version numbers are the same.

It's possible, although unlikely, that 10.5.2 would fix the issue, 
but I don't know.

I would imagine that REBOL isn't the only program that stopped working 
like this.

at least not on 10.5.2 beta

I know it's far away but what are the design-plans for compiling 
with the upcoming SDK3. 

Do we still compile/pack into one executable file, or one executable 
+ hostlib?

It is one !extrem! cool feature that compiled/packed rebol doesn't 
need additional files 
even own system lib's or other garbage/bloatware to run.

one file

the .dll is just for developers. when you download from rebol.com 
you get just rebol.exe like with r2.

good to know, thx gabriele

Could an Admin here please put this group in the REBOL divider?

I've been reading the R3 docs and I can't wait to start working on 
an IDE again.  Unfortunately I don't have enough time to really chase 
that again...  Yet!

ammon, do you have ideas for an IDE? I'm building an R2 IDE, but 
am a little stuck as to its usefulness.

Yes, I have LOTS of ideas for an IDE! 


A few months after joining the REBOL community (very soon after IOS 
was released) I actually started a funded IDE project for REBOL. 
 I spent quite a bit of time discussing these ideas with Carl who 
agreed to release it as THE REBOL IDE but unfortunately the funding 
died.  I've tried numerous times to renew the project all to no avail.

this is good :-) are you doing something specifically inspired by 
a specific kind? eclipse? xcode? visual studio?

I'm making one that resembles XCode, but it seems to me that when 
I need to arrange files and build files, it's simpler for me to just 
build a small dialect and handle it all inside a text editor

perhaps we should move to an IDE group

Yes, indeed.

you go make one if it doesn't exist.

Now this is in the REBOL devider.

Done.

thanks

Hi ! what's about R3 and CGI ? Can we use the current alpha in CGI 
mode ?

I'm not 100% sure about CGI in general but there is no -c cli option.for 
2.99.4.  afaik the only options advertised as ready for prime-time 
are -q and one that controls quit/halt behaviour.  Expect someone 
more in the know to correct what I just said.  I'm not 100%.  (Or 
after a perusal, I may correct myself in a few minutes).

Just taking a first look at the r3 Alpha

In Rebol 2
>> x: 1
== 1
>> - x
== -1
>>

In Rebol 3
>> x: 1
== 1
>> - x
** script error: cannot use subtract on none! value

is this by design or bug ?

it's by design

So what is the best way to change the sign of a number   
x:: 0 - x   ?

negate X

Would then be cool if  "** script error: cannot use subtract on none! 
value" was "** script problem: cannot use subtract on 'none! value', 
you may have meant to use 'negative value'"

<Can we use the current alpha in CGI mode ?>

It does not work for me....A simple CGI that should just return a 
short HTML page, simple returns an empty string.

I tried to run the fledgling Rebol.org test suite against the public 
alpha to get a first impression of the impact of the changes in R3.


The first stumbling block is that RUnit (run.r) accesses system/error
  

I looked in DocBase but couldn't see any reference to the "new" System 
object. Any hints on where to find documentation on the changes to 
the system object?

The system object will be obsoleted soon, AFAIK. Unfortunately I 
have no details on what is replacing it.

I think it has something to do with modules, which are not yet done.

Thanks, Henrik. I'll wait to see what comes out later. There's still 
more work than I can handle left in building the Rebol.org test-suite 
so I won't be twiddling my thumbs.