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TomBon
11-Jan-2008
[5587]
nice alpha, any chance to get get some pre-information how to use/test 
 task!  ?   f-t: make task! [ ] [  print now/precise] ?
Pekr
11-Jan-2008
[5588x2]
I did only some small test ... I posted some short console data, 
but can't remember where :-)
>> test: make task! [wait 10 print ["Does tasking work?" newline]]
== task!
>> do test
Begin Task
== task!
>> print "Doing something else in console..."
Doing something else in console...
>> Does tasking work?

End Task

>>
TomBon
11-Jan-2008
[5590x2]
thx pekr,  will try this.
strange, wait - within the task will crash rebol
Pekr
11-Jan-2008
[5592]
really? Above code worked back in October ...
TomBon
11-Jan-2008
[5593x3]
yes, it works via console but not with vid
test: make task! [wait 10 print ["Does tasking work?" newline]]

 view [

    h2 "Task" 
    button "Start" 	[do test]
    button "Stop"  	[   ]
    button "Quit" 	[unview none]
]
without wait it works..but ok it's alpha...
Gregg
11-Jan-2008
[5596]
Confirmed.
BrianH
11-Jan-2008
[5597]
Tasks don't work very well yet. AFAIK, this will be solved after 
modules are finalized, after Unicode.
Pekr
11-Jan-2008
[5598]
new blog regarding loading, encoders/decoders - http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0109.html
btiffin
12-Jan-2008
[5599]
TomBon;  Last I heard, Carl confirmed that tasks are not yet advertised 
as ready for primetime.
Henrik
12-Jan-2008
[5600]
modules are probably a good thing to test. we have only few test 
cases for that.
TomBon
12-Jan-2008
[5601]
thx for the info btiffin.
Rod
13-Jan-2008
[5602]
Henrik, thanks for the vmware note, good to know - also the issue 
with rebol 2 on the newer macs, wasn't thinking about both sides 
of the problem.
Henrik
13-Jan-2008
[5603]
It seems to work on macs that were upgraded from Tiger without doing 
a clean install or an archive and install. Some library is being 
carried over from the Tiger install, I think.
Rod
13-Jan-2008
[5604]
Ah, I remember the issue now.  That is a pain, it does work fine 
for me in Leopard.  If you need more help tracking down what is different 
let me know, don't mind poking around for you.  I have both intel 
and ppc macs that are still on tiger that might help as well.
Henrik
13-Jan-2008
[5605x3]
well, I've tried digging out the version numbers for libraries used 
on both Leopard machines that work and Leopard machines that don't 
work and the version numbers are the same.
It's possible, although unlikely, that 10.5.2 would fix the issue, 
but I don't know.
I would imagine that REBOL isn't the only program that stopped working 
like this.
Will
13-Jan-2008
[5608]
at least not on 10.5.2 beta
TomBon
14-Jan-2008
[5609]
I know it's far away but what are the design-plans for compiling 
with the upcoming SDK3. 

Do we still compile/pack into one executable file, or one executable 
+ hostlib?

It is one !extrem! cool feature that compiled/packed rebol doesn't 
need additional files 
even own system lib's or other garbage/bloatware to run.
Gabriele
15-Jan-2008
[5610x2]
one file
the .dll is just for developers. when you download from rebol.com 
you get just rebol.exe like with r2.
TomBon
15-Jan-2008
[5612]
good to know, thx gabriele
Ammon
17-Jan-2008
[5613x2]
Could an Admin here please put this group in the REBOL divider?
I've been reading the R3 docs and I can't wait to start working on 
an IDE again.  Unfortunately I don't have enough time to really chase 
that again...  Yet!
Henrik
17-Jan-2008
[5615]
ammon, do you have ideas for an IDE? I'm building an R2 IDE, but 
am a little stuck as to its usefulness.
Ammon
17-Jan-2008
[5616]
Yes, I have LOTS of ideas for an IDE! 


A few months after joining the REBOL community (very soon after IOS 
was released) I actually started a funded IDE project for REBOL. 
 I spent quite a bit of time discussing these ideas with Carl who 
agreed to release it as THE REBOL IDE but unfortunately the funding 
died.  I've tried numerous times to renew the project all to no avail.
Henrik
17-Jan-2008
[5617x3]
this is good :-) are you doing something specifically inspired by 
a specific kind? eclipse? xcode? visual studio?
I'm making one that resembles XCode, but it seems to me that when 
I need to arrange files and build files, it's simpler for me to just 
build a small dialect and handle it all inside a text editor
perhaps we should move to an IDE group
Ammon
17-Jan-2008
[5620]
Yes, indeed.
Henrik
17-Jan-2008
[5621]
you go make one if it doesn't exist.
Reichart
19-Jan-2008
[5622x2]
Now this is in the REBOL devider.
Done.
Ammon
19-Jan-2008
[5624]
thanks
Philippe
23-Jan-2008
[5625]
Hi ! what's about R3 and CGI ? Can we use the current alpha in CGI 
mode ?
btiffin
23-Jan-2008
[5626]
I'm not 100% sure about CGI in general but there is no -c cli option.for 
2.99.4.  afaik the only options advertised as ready for prime-time 
are -q and one that controls quit/halt behaviour.  Expect someone 
more in the know to correct what I just said.  I'm not 100%.  (Or 
after a perusal, I may correct myself in a few minutes).
PhilB
24-Jan-2008
[5627]
Just taking a first look at the r3 Alpha

In Rebol 2
>> x: 1
== 1
>> - x
== -1
>>

In Rebol 3
>> x: 1
== 1
>> - x
** script error: cannot use subtract on none! value

is this by design or bug ?
Henrik
24-Jan-2008
[5628]
it's by design
PhilB
24-Jan-2008
[5629]
So what is the best way to change the sign of a number   
x:: 0 - x   ?
Pekr
24-Jan-2008
[5630]
negate X
Reichart
24-Jan-2008
[5631]
Would then be cool if  "** script error: cannot use subtract on none! 
value" was "** script problem: cannot use subtract on 'none! value', 
you may have meant to use 'negative value'"
Sunanda
25-Jan-2008
[5632]
<Can we use the current alpha in CGI mode ?>

It does not work for me....A simple CGI that should just return a 
short HTML page, simple returns an empty string.
PeterWood
26-Jan-2008
[5633]
I tried to run the fledgling Rebol.org test suite against the public 
alpha to get a first impression of the impact of the changes in R3.


The first stumbling block is that RUnit (run.r) accesses system/error
  

I looked in DocBase but couldn't see any reference to the "new" System 
object. Any hints on where to find documentation on the changes to 
the system object?
Henrik
26-Jan-2008
[5634x2]
The system object will be obsoleted soon, AFAIK. Unfortunately I 
have no details on what is replacing it.
I think it has something to do with modules, which are not yet done.
PeterWood
26-Jan-2008
[5636]
Thanks, Henrik. I'll wait to see what comes out later. There's still 
more work than I can handle left in building the Rebol.org test-suite 
so I won't be twiddling my thumbs.