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Reichart
12-Feb-2008
[5752]
.NET sucks (from what I can see), but boy, what a market... (hopefully 
that one sentence sums it all up).
BrianH
12-Feb-2008
[5753]
Community project, remember. Who said RT had to do it?
Gregg
12-Feb-2008
[5754x2]
If RT's goal is to lure Windows programmers, particularly corporate 
ones, they need to support COM, .NET, and big DB connections (with 
good examples).
I don't know that it's their goal though.
Reichart
12-Feb-2008
[5756]
In fact, while attempting to convince somoene to use REBOL over .NET, 
I really learned how little .NET actually does for you as  web developer. 
(I can't speak to using .NET for something else).
BrianH
12-Feb-2008
[5757x2]
Reichart, having used and studied .NET extensively, I can concur 
that it sucks. It just sucks less than its competition.
REBOL is not its competition btw - Java and COM are.
SteveT
12-Feb-2008
[5759]
Hi Guy's - .NET was M$ attempt to solve dllhell. Also to be a platfrom 
for their own languages.
Gregg
12-Feb-2008
[5760]
And move away from the 1980's C API. :-)
SteveT
12-Feb-2008
[5761]
Yep, some of their own dll's mixed old C with newer c++ and 16/32 
bit code which had to be thunked to work
BrianH
12-Feb-2008
[5762]
Also, MS adopted .NET for the same reason Apple adopted LLVM: cross-hardware 
compatibility.
Geomol
12-Feb-2008
[5763]
One way to see it is to ask yourself, what you value most: earning 
money or doing something right. Sometimes it's possible to do it 
right AND earn a lot at the same time. Many years ago, I found out, 
that I enjoy most doing things right, so that's my priority one.
BrianH
12-Feb-2008
[5764]
I enjoy doing things right too, but I have a mortgage :(
Geomol
12-Feb-2008
[5765]
A buddhist would then argue, that when you own nothing, you're not 
afraid of loosing anything, but that might be a tad too extreme. 
:-)
BrianH
12-Feb-2008
[5766x2]
Try owning nothing and living through a Chicago winter :)
(I know, you can rent, but that costs money too)
Henrik
12-Feb-2008
[5768x2]
Geomol, remember the L'easy campaign a few years ago about owning 
nothing and renting everything?
I like that philosophy sort of, but it sucks for products I like 
and want to keep forever.
Geomol
12-Feb-2008
[5770]
hehe, yeah. I don't like to owe someone, so L'easy is not for me.
Henrik
12-Feb-2008
[5771x2]
that's true
but I hate losing things, it's a dilemma. :-)
Kaj
14-Feb-2008
[5773]
I suppose we're assuming material ownership here. I've converted 
my material goods into goodwill in the past years and feel pretty 
good now that it can't be taken away from me :-)
Henrik
14-Feb-2008
[5774]
that's a good move, Kaj
Ingo
15-Feb-2008
[5775]
Will R3 Richtext support "hot links"? 

I mean links which are able to open files / links in other applications, 
or run a Rebol function when clicked?
Something like:

view [

 text [ "More info on " link http://www.rebol.org". Clickable " action 
 "text." [print "You clicked me!"]
]
Henrik
15-Feb-2008
[5776]
yes
Ingo
15-Feb-2008
[5777]
Now that's a clear answer, Thanks ;-)
Henrik
15-Feb-2008
[5778]
not sure if it's going to be exactly like that though, but there 
will be hot areas for text, where you can do some kind of action.
Ingo
15-Feb-2008
[5779]
This looks like the easiest way for me, but if there are better ones, 
I won't complain.
Ingo
20-Feb-2008
[5780]
What do you think about the following addition to trace?

trace/log %file


which would write trace output to a file, so it can be reviewed later, 
sent by email, ...
Gabriele
20-Feb-2008
[5781]
echo %file  ?
[unknown: 5]
25-Feb-2008
[5782]
anyone know if alias will be updated in REBOL3 to support paths? 
 I would like to do something such as:

alias 'find/any "myfind" 

Currently, the alpha that I have gives an error that says:

** Script error: alias does not allow path! for its word argument
BrianH
27-Feb-2008
[5783]
No, nor should it. ALIAS is just for aliasing words to other words, 
primarily for internationalization. What you want is function wrappers, 
made easier with the APPLY native function in REBOL 3.
[unknown: 5]
27-Feb-2008
[5784]
Yeah I do that now with stuff such as:

>> myfind: func [s v][find/any s v]
>> myfind "God is Great" "G?e"
== "Great"


I'll look into 'apply as I have been wanting to dig deeper into what 
REBOL3 is offering.
Henrik
6-Mar-2008
[5785]
http://www.hmkdesign.dk/rebol/files/4b1cf5b6f8dbd87dfc957a59e16dcf4e-107.html

so now we can do a little bit of skinning :-)
james_nak
6-Mar-2008
[5786]
Henrik, that is sick (meaning very good).
Henrik
7-Mar-2008
[5787]
now things are moving. yesterday: select new skin after closing and 
opening window. today: switch between multiple skins on the fly in 
the same window. tomorrow: .... multiple skins simultaneously in 
the same window. :-)
Louis
7-Mar-2008
[5788]
Are rebol2 core programs going to work on r3?  Is another alpha of 
r3 about ready to be released?
Henrik
7-Mar-2008
[5789x3]
the next R3 release will be unicode based. It will not be very compatible 
with R2 programs. A few scripts and one-liners will run.
Louis, you may have read about it,  but at one point there was even 
a discussion that R3 could not be called REBOL anymore, due to the 
numerous changes in the language caused by Unicode. It was decided 
not to change it.
so yes, there will be many compatibility issues, but it will definitely 
be for the better.
Louis
7-Mar-2008
[5792x2]
I remember that. I wrote r3 because it's easier.  :>)   Perhaps it 
should just be called 3.  That  is even easier to write.
Will we have another alpha soon?
Henrik
7-Mar-2008
[5794x2]
as soon as the Unicode internal alphas are debugged, yes
I don't know if the next VID3 will make it in there. View does not 
yet support unicode, AFAIK.
Louis
7-Mar-2008
[5796]
Unicode in core is what I'm wanting to play with for now.  Thanks 
for responding.
Henrik
7-Mar-2008
[5797]
you're welcome
Jerry
15-Mar-2008
[5798]
REBOL 3 Datatypes and Typesets http://rebollovesjerry.blogspot.com/2008/03/blog-post_15.html
[unknown: 5]
15-Mar-2008
[5799]
Nice!  You put together that blog nicely.  Your illustrations are 
excellent.
Jerry
15-Mar-2008
[5800]
Thanks Paul, I am doing my best.
[unknown: 5]
15-Mar-2008
[5801]
:)