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Henrik 3-May-2008 [5854] | REBOL 3 Alpha 2.100.10 Unicode Init System Port REBOL Host-Init Built: 1-May-2008/21:33:53-7:00 Language: dansk - Denmark 56 datatypes, 68 actions, 141 natives 1021 words defined >> stats == 583680 |
sqlab 3-May-2008 [5855] | How about wait 0? I used it a few time just to be sure that an event got really triggered. |
Pekr 6-May-2008 [5856x4] | So, as we just decided to make Curl guys to close the Nitro doors, because R3 will be much cooler, the last phase of two months plan started just 5 minutes ago - http://www.rebol.com/rebol3/next.html .... yes, we are back to VID 3, with prior phases more or less finished .... just to let you know .... |
Ah, I forgot to provide a smiley to the Curl remark :-) | |
.... or not? ;-) | |
Simple, Clean VID Requirements - http://www.rebol.net/r3blogs/0132.html | |
btiffin 6-May-2008 [5860] | I added my 2 cents. |
AdrianS 8-May-2008 [5861] | It would be really nice if Rebol 3 included some grid computing functionality out of the box. Something as simple to set up and get going as GridGain - http://www.gridgain.com.Or is it already very easy to achieve a master-worker kind of solution? |
Graham 8-May-2008 [5862] | What about just support for EC2 etc? |
PeterWood 8-May-2008 [5863x4] | What about just support for Gmail? |
Henrik: Do the 56 datatypes include audio! and video! yet? | |
I know Pekr has talked about Rebol needing better multimedia support in the past ...I think he's right. | |
I'm also thinking about starting a save our hash! campaign - it's great for building unique lists. | |
Oldes 8-May-2008 [5867] | map! will be used for fast unique lists. And it's too soon for multimedia datatypes... I think audio/video will not be datatype at all, rather a scheme I guess. |
BrianH 8-May-2008 [5868] | Don't forget user-defined datatypes, which will also be in R3. Some of the missing types will be added that way. |
PeterWood 12-May-2008 [5869] | Will we be able to use find against a map! ? |
BrianH 12-May-2008 [5870] | I think so, but you probably won't need to - map! is optimized for this kind of task without needing find. |
Pekr 24-May-2008 [5871] | There starts to be series of VID3 blogs. So - those who want to affect some design principles, can share their opinion there .... |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5872x2] | Is there any way we can have a hybrid R2 with the new graphics system and the old core? |
Some of us are tied to R2 because of networking | |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5874] | I wouldn't bet on it. That might be a month's worth of work, but I'll ask for an official statement. |
Chris 24-May-2008 [5875] | At the moment, I'd like the opposite -- new core, current graphics : ) I don't want the new graphics system before it's ready. |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5876x2] | I suspect the former would be more easily done than the latter |
After all one starts with core and then builds view on top of it | |
Chris 24-May-2008 [5878] | Then how do you complete the new view without the new core underneath? |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5879] | I suspect view is not really dependent on core |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5880] | the event system is different, which I believe also has something to do with ports, which are a different concept in R3. |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5881x2] | it's more for networking ( async ) and LNS |
oh .. ok. | |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5883] | LNS is high priority for R3. Needed for Devbase. |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5884x2] | Just seems to be a lack of participation in the R3 process ... and I'm wondering if it's because the changes are too great |
If there were a way we could incorporate the changes into projects we are currently working on ... it just might make it easier | |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5886] | I think it's because the changes are very large, yes. It's rather impossible to do any real GUI work as long as VID3 is sitting in this current state, where we're trying to figure out how VID3 should work and that things might change from week to week. |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5887] | What's the best way to get started? |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5888] | with what part of R3? |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5889x3] | There's just too much information there at present ... |
playing with Vid3 | |
I see Carl's current intention is to nail Vid3 down | |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5892x2] | probably get one of last year's builds and simply toy around with the layout dialect. current builds have VID3 left out. |
yes, there are some design issues in that style creation is too complex and must be simplified. Carl and Gabriele are sorting that out in private. | |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5894] | we need an dummy's guide to vid3 |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5895x2] | we have one, but it's too complex :-) |
well, actually I don't think it fits with the latest VID3 build | |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5897] | Ok, an idiot's guide then! |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5898x2] | the dialect itself is easy enough. |
it's probably a good idea to study it in order to find out how faces can work together and such. | |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5900] | I suspect we are only going to find it's limitation by starting to build small apps and see how it scales |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5901] | it's probably mostly limited by the number of styles currently. |
Graham 24-May-2008 [5902] | which build has Vid3 in it? |
Henrik 24-May-2008 [5903] | the public release |
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