World: r3wp

why an apocalypse?

ahah i was waiting for this type of reaction. Apocalypse means Revelation

The REBOL browser: http://www.rebol.net/wiki/ReBrowse

anyone know how many entries there are now in the wiki?

A new announce again, but what else Mister Carl Clouney ?
It would be cool to see something else than just words.

some updates ...

After discussions yesterday and today, we will be moving to Curecode 
for the bug database.

A web forum is also being created --- eg. vbulletin or phpBB to support 
non-altme users

For source code - looking at using a distributed source code system

ie. Mercurial ... or Hg for short

and Devbase ?

Dockimbel will host the Curecode server

The BBS will be on http://www.rebbase.com/.. probably.

Sticking with the currrent wiki for the moment ... but a wiki with 
a better API is being sought

I suggested Mindtouch deki as used by Mozilla foundation .. but Gabriele 
feels that it is excluded because it uses mono.

the intent is to write a R interface at some stage to Mercurial to 
replace Devbase ( I think )

but in the meantime use stuff as it is .... and not delay by forever 
rewriting tools

All of this is to be done by this week.

yeah delay is the prob currently

Carl wants to release R3 ASAP.

this week ? whoaaaaa, it might be a dream

thanks for the report Graham

is the next alpha release included in (this week) ?

So, pehaps people can make suggestions for a BBS ( needs tags so 
that Carl only need to filter by tags to read what he needs to read 
), and good spam fitltering

All of this needs to be up and running so that we can receive feedback 
for R3

The move now is to get as many eyeballs on R3 as possible ... but 
we don't want to lose the feedback

So, I think the idea is not to release R3 as a finished product ...

yeah but at first, you will get enough feedback from Altme community: 
so give us a release

but to get more betas out

no problem is it's not finished , just give us material

there is work to do .... doc has to import all the tickets from Altme 
bug tracker into curecode

*if

I hope we are moving to a more pragmatic approach now

Hg is also being adopted by Qtask ... so it seems a good choice

Users can download tortoiseHg now to get some experience

good news because some reboler i know getting nervous breakdown (including 
me)

Of course it's just intentions ... we need to be sure it all happens

arghhhh.... give me a rope ;-)

well well, i o

.... only hope it's not a joke....

http://tortoisehg.sourceforge.net/

looking at current description of Rebbrowser I am far from satisfied. 
I can already imagine how ugly the default interface is going to 
be. It seems to me like a concept without deeper thought. Buttons 
as forward, back, are the most flawed concept of the web, with very 
negative effect for the web apps ...

Why don't we just use Tortoise SVN? Some ppl know it from RebGUI 
project. Is SVN any less functional?

Not distributed

Why do we need distributed?

IMO rebrowse should be far away in our todo list. So much core capabilities 
was missing in the first R3 released.

When i read that for Carl, [parse] evolutions must be downsized the 
most as possible (while I believe this is one of the most important 
functions 

in Rebol), i have still some doubts how priorities are well defined.

It has been said by many rebolers all over the past, the Killer app 
should be an IDE (including code editor, screen designer and other 
wizards).

It the only manner to encourage new groups of developper in starting 
huge projets with Rebol.

Distributed version control is far superior over the classic schemes

SVN is hardly an upgrade over CVS

TortoiseSVN on Windows XP has been a nightmare: the more you checkou, 
the slower XP Explorer runs until you uninstall.