World: r3wp

The whole idea is confused and misplaced

Henrik - I am at home for 1 hours, being away in Prague - our company 
is running tender for the new website ...

Pekr, ok

If it's a test bed ... then don't call it a developers forum.

We talk too much even without BBS:) I'm rather going into a cave;-)

If it's a developer's forum ... it's grossly underpowered

If someone is going to spend weeks on improving it .. seems misplaced 
effort.

Henrik - somehow some screenshots show GUI being a bit distracting, 
not nicely placed elements ...

Pekr, alignment comes later

which one shows container?

It's everywhere. :-)

but fields and lists in particular use them.

is there also going to be an r3 release today as well or is the forum 
reblet all we're going to get?

the forum reblet needs r3

http://www.forummatrix.org/compare/Advanced-Electron-Forum%2BBeehive-Forum%2BdnfBB%2BE-Blah%2BJForum%2BmvnForum%2BmwForum%2BMyBB%2BNextBBS%2BPhorum%2BSMF%2BUnclassified-NewsBoard%2BVanilla%2BViscacha%2BXMB

and?

myBB looks good

Syntax highlighting must be done with a plugin

AdrianS, the forum reblet requires the latest R3 release.

(internal release, that is)

I understand - from Carl's posting yesterday, it seemed he was talking 
about releasing a newer alpha in 'a few hours'

so I was asking if this is still going to happen

One rule to learn is never to trust time tables from Carl.

s

sorry

I was sooo sure there would be alpha tonight ... the new moon was 
in an equilateral triangle with Jupiter and Venus at sunset here 
in Minnesota ..

working a bit on date styles.

view [year-calendar 2008]

gives: http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/153.png

Looks good.. and the sliders from Carl's blog as well.

http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/files/r3/gui/007.mov<-- older video of 
slider styles here. same area as shown in the blog.

Looks good Henrik.  I don't care much for the  orange.  Maybe a yellow 
would be nicer.  So square-ish - maybe round the corners on the month 
panes.

Paul, yes, colors are experimental right now and definitely not final. 
rounded corners are a little harder to do.

Yeah I figured the round stuff would be more difficult.

Will it be possible to use bitmaps as in R2? For example extend effect 
was very useful. I really don't think, that we must draw everything.

I haven't used effects at all yet, but I think it's possible.

Should new development initatives that require GUI be done in R2 
or should one wait for R3? What would the porting excercise be like 
if I were to start with R2?

Slider is really nice, but quite honestly - how often, if ever, do 
you use slider in your app to represent data? I would welcome more 
practical styles as tabs, tree-view, list-view (grid)

As for date field, it is imo ugly - the whole skin is starting to 
look like old grey unix, weighting of fonts is overloaded for smaller 
buttons and labels ....

CharlesW, VID and VID3.4 are very different, so it doesn't really 
pay to start out in VID and you can't port anything.

Pekr, a slider is not used to represent data. It is used to adjust 
data. And it's already used in at least two places.

Date field is not complete.

The wait is frustrating. I have been so tempted to learn and use 
NewLisp for my projects but love the lispy forthish nature of rebol.

Understandable.

I would also say that the 'wait is frustratig. Reading the docbase 
article about 'wait in GUI does not satisfy me. I thought we are 
away from stupidly blocking GUIs.

Do you think it would be too risky to develop with the Alpha? How 
different is the core?

I think that if Carl generally releases alpha to the public, the 
more and more will be done in R3. We might be close the boundary, 
when we should start using R3, even if not complete ...

CharlesW, there are some differences, like unicode, but go ahead 
and get a good feel for it.

The feeling I get from documents such as the Wait_in_Wait page is 
that R3 is still being prototyped.

Yes ...

Wait .. wait ... wait ..

me too ;-)