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Steeve
8-Dec-2008
[8815]
on peut toujours rêver Claude
Pekr
8-Dec-2008
[8816]
Steeve - but you know, what the situation with REBOL is like. So 
you either wait for RIF, or you use something even maybe more suited 
to the job - SQLite. Does everything need to be pure REBOL based?
Claude
8-Dec-2008
[8817]
oui
Steeve
8-Dec-2008
[8818x3]
ye
yes Pekr, but for smallish project an inside DB would be enough
and i'm not waiting for RIF, i know Carl
Claude
8-Dec-2008
[8821]
i am like a kid who wait every day (is not a joke) an announcemet 
for R3 coming out ;-)  even if R3 is not fully finish !!!!
Steeve
8-Dec-2008
[8822x2]
oh my... don't do that or you will do a nervous breakdown
like Graham for example, ahahaha
Claude
8-Dec-2008
[8824]
;-);-);-) near coma
Steeve
8-Dec-2008
[8825]
(i must confess, i check rebol.net several times per day)
Claude
8-Dec-2008
[8826]
we are junkies ;-)
Steeve
8-Dec-2008
[8827]
but i turned crazy long time ago
Claude
8-Dec-2008
[8828]
well , good night all of you ;-)
Steeve
8-Dec-2008
[8829x3]
You layer together with the hens
(strange trad)
to bed with the chickens (better)
Graham
8-Dec-2008
[8832x2]
write a script to check rebol.net .. don't use your browser!
Are you guys rebolers or not???
Steeve
8-Dec-2008
[8834]
ahah, i like to waste my time
BrianH
8-Dec-2008
[8835x2]
Steeve, when Reichart posted that photo and you said I looked crazy, 
I was worried that my eye strain from the glare was showing in the 
picture. I couldn't see the picture, as I was in it. Having seen 
it now I should have been more concerned about how loose clothing 
makes me look 30+ pounds heavier. By the way, last week was the first 
time most of the REBOL community had seen me, or any met me.
As for whether or not I am crazy - not in any way that shows :)
Chris
8-Dec-2008
[8837]
Need another Devcon!
BrianH
8-Dec-2008
[8838]
I could never afford to go before, but next time I might make it 
:)
DideC
9-Dec-2008
[8839]
Brian you are one of the two under the big wheel, but wich one ?
Henrik
9-Dec-2008
[8840]
Carl needs a text guru to finish rich text editing. Anton?
Pekr
9-Dec-2008
[8841x2]
Dide - look at picture name, you will decode it :-) But - BrianH 
is imo the guy similar a bit to the mixture of The Edward Scissorhands 
and Thec Cure singer Robert Smith :-)
Henrik - Anton or Gabriele. Gabriele did text handling for first 
VID prototype, and it was probably more complete, no? But of course, 
Anton is guru here :-)
Henrik
9-Dec-2008
[8843]
Gabriele too, of course.
DideC
9-Dec-2008
[8844]
Pekr: thanks. Did not saw it ealier.
Anton
9-Dec-2008
[8845]
Don't forget Romano.
Henrik
9-Dec-2008
[8846]
Anton, if he has time?
Anton
9-Dec-2008
[8847]
No, I mean, don't forget Romano's past contributions to early VID.
Henrik
9-Dec-2008
[8848]
hmm... will that help anything?
BrianH
9-Dec-2008
[8849]
I'm the mildly gothy one with the multicolored hair.
DideC
9-Dec-2008
[8850]
Yes, Brian, Good description !

Pekr one was not bad, especially regardings Robert Smith (but missing 
hair's color) :-)
BrianH
9-Dec-2008
[8851]
I think Pekr doesn't see too many goths. I'm pretty conservative-looking 
by their standards :)
Steeve
9-Dec-2008
[8852]
Pekr is right, when i saw Brian first, i thought, oh God i hope no 
one will give him a scissor...
BrianH
9-Dec-2008
[8853]
I am really very happy and well adjusted, which weirds out my friends 
:)
Steeve
9-Dec-2008
[8854x2]
he's already "cutting" our idea on R3 evolutions, so that he doesn't 
need to be more accurate
;-)
BrianH
9-Dec-2008
[8856]
We are on the cutting edge :)
BrianH
10-Dec-2008
[8857]
Oldes: Is there something new with Rebcode?


Nothing new, but your requesting it means that you don't remember 
the problems the old rebcode had.

The bad news:

- Rebcode didn't work in R2, it was unstable and frequently crashed 
REBOL, very pre-allpha.

- Carl is unlikely to make a build with rebcode because of the above, 
and because he is focusing on R3.

- R2-style rebcode would be slower in R3 relative to the speed of 
regular R3, partly due to changes in function word lookup.

- Any rebcode dialect for R3 would be incompatible with R2 rebcode 
on a basic semantic level.

The good news:

- R3 has features that will make it relatively easy to add our own 
rebcode-like dialect.

- Even though the R2 semantics wouldn't be good, there are more tricks 
we can do to get more speed.

- The main reason that we don't get as much of a relative speedup 
for R2-style rebcode in R3 is that R3 is faster itself.
Pekr
11-Dec-2008
[8858]
BrianH - are you going to bring us Rebcode, JIT, or anything like 
that in the future for R3? :-)
Maarten
11-Dec-2008
[8859]
Petr, read carefully... he is saying R3 is so much faster that you 
may not need it.
Oldes
11-Dec-2008
[8860]
We will see. I'm not going to test it now as I don't have the latest 
R3 version. But I'm really looking forward to see the new R3 features.
Rebolek
11-Dec-2008
[8861]
R3 (at least publicly available versions) math is definitely not 
10x faster as rebcode was.
Oldes
11-Dec-2008
[8862]
For math maybe we will be able to use C-ish plugins with R3
Pekr
11-Dec-2008
[8863]
Maarten - you probably don't believe your own words, righ? Or are 
you going to write pixel manipulation in 'foreach or any other REBOL 
loop? :-)
Maarten
11-Dec-2008
[8864]
I think R3 will be fast enough for all things you don't want to code 
in C